Mr Diety: Mormonism is racism

[_Stormy Waters]

For your consideration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5_L1coztJ4

Edited to add:
I would have titled the video differently

Edited to Add:
Just realized this thread is a duplicate. Please post Comments related to the video Here

[_bcspace]

The organization that is racism is the Democratic Party. And since it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat, it is also not possible for a good Mormon to be racist.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

And since it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat...

Right, just look at Hugh Nibley. He was certainly a bad Mormon, one of the worst, in fact.

Wait a second...am I actually agreeing with bcspace?

[_huckelberry]

The organization that is racism is the Democratic Party. And since it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat, it is also not possible for a good Mormon to be racist.

This is a surprise. I thought being Democrat was a matter of lineage and not race.

[_Themis]

The organization that is racism is the Democratic Party. And since it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat, it is also not possible for a good Mormon to be racist.

It's always nice to have bcspace to tell us black is white and white is black.

[_Droopy]

What bc is trying to point out is simply that the Democratic party, being the party of and controlled by the American Left, is the only major political or social entity left, of any size or importance, that retains the concept of institutional, state enforced discrimination of the basis of race and collective/group identity as one of the core aspects of their political ideology.

[Guest]

The organization that is racism is the Democratic Party. And since it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat, it is also not possible for a good Mormon to be racist.

BC, you should check your logic here. You have demonstrated another massive FAIL.

Let's see:

All Democrats are racist.
No good Mormon can be a Democrat.
Therefore, no good Mormon can be a racist.

Really?

You should check your syllogistic fallacies, because you have one here. It is known as an Illicit Treatment of the Major Term. (You should look it up sometime.)

To avoid this particular fallacy, your first premise would have had to claim that all racists were Democrats.

Since we know that the Book of Mormon, believed in and adhered to by all good Mormons, is a blatantly racist document, and since you claim that no good Mormons are Democrats, this form of the argument does not work for you either.

Looks as if you are SOL on this one, my friend.

[_DrW]

What bc is trying to point out is simply that the Democratic party, being the party of and controlled by the American Left, is the only major political or social entity left, of any size or importance, that retains the concept of institutional, state enforced discrimination of the basis of race and collective/group identity as one of the core aspects of their political ideology.

As described in the post above, BC failed to demonstrate a grasp of basic logic in his statement and thus deserves no credibility regarding his claim. This happens quite often with BC, and he is therefore not to be taken seriously.

[_Droopy]

As described in the post above, BC failed to demonstrate a grasp of basic logic in his statement and thus deserves no credibility regarding his claim. This happens quite often with BC, and he is therefore not to be taken seriously.

What it does demonstrate is apparent reading comprehension problems on your part.

bc did not say that "all Democrats are racist." He said that the Democratic party is a racist institution (which is patently demonstrable). This is what he actually said:

The organization that is racism is the Democratic Party. And since it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat, it is also not possible for a good Mormon to be racist.

Hence, if you want to put this argument in standard form, it would be:

The Democratic party is racist.
No faithful Mormon can be a Democrat.
Therefore, no good Mormon can be a racist.

If the first proposition is assumed to be true, and if the second proposition is assumed to be true, then the conclusion does not follow from the first two premises. It is not a valid deductive argument. Now, if bc had said what you ascribed to him, which was that all Democrats, not just the party (which leaves open the possibility that any number of individual Democrats are not racists) are racists. Then you would have:

All Democrats are racist.
No faithful Mormon can be a Democrat.
Therefore, no good Mormon can be a racist.

This is still not a valid deductive argument, as the premises still don't follow necessarily from the conclusion (just because a Mormon is not a Democrat, doesn't mean that he's not a racist).

There are a number of very good reasons why no good, faithful Mormon could ever be a racist (doctrinal reasons), but simply not being a Democrat is not one of them (there are a plethora of other reasons why active support and participation within that party would be spiritually and doctrinally problematic).

I'll have to call bc on this one as a matter of formal logic, but I understand what he was trying to say. Basically, it boils down to this: the core of the Democratic party's politics and political ideology is class war and identity politics. Identity politics is a central aspect of the party's hold on power and its divide and rule strategy between ethnic and racial groups and between legal and illegal residents. No LDS who understands and takes his Church seriously could be a part of such an institution.

One of the reasons I am no longer a Republican is precisely because that party has become, itself, too unprincipled for me to remain officially associated with.

[_Yoda]

..it's not possible for a good Mormon to be a Democrat

I have always disagreed with you on this. I don't think it matters whether a member of the Church is a registered Republican or a registered Democrat.

Simply because someone is registered as a Democrat does not mean that he/she supports the far left agenda, anymore than a registered Republican supports the far right agenda.

Most normal people are somewhere in the middle, and lean one way or the other.