Mitt's honesty in question once again...

[_Drifting]

From the "Huffington Post":

"Mitt Romney raised eyebrows during the presidential debate Tuesday night when he claimed that as governor of Massachusetts, he had been so dismayed at the lack of female cabinet candidates that he sent women's groups out to find them.

"'I went to a number of women's groups and said, "Can you help us find folks?" and they brought us whole binders full of women,' he said.

"In fact, Romney did not direct women's groups to bring him female candidates, 'Boston Pheonix' reporter David Bernstein points out. A non-partisan collaboration of women’s groups called Massachusetts Government Appointments Project (MassGAP) was responsible for the effort in 2002, when the group's leaders realized that women held only 30% of the top appointed positions in the state.

"Romney boasted that during his term as governor, Massachusetts had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America. 'Now one of the reasons I was able to get so many good women to be part of that team was because of our recruiting effort,' he said.

"This statement, too, is misleading. While 42% of Romney’s appointments during his first 2-1/2 years as governor were women, the number of women in high-level appointed positions actually declined to 27.6% during his full tenure as governor, according to a 2007 MassGAP study."

("Mitt Romney 'Binders Full Of Women' Claim Misleads," by Laura Bassett, "Huffington Post," 17 October 2012, at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... more257198)


From the LDS lesson manual 'Primary 2: Choose The Right'

Explain that telling the truth is part of being honest. When we tell the truth, we tell about things exactly as they happened.

(emphasis mine)

President of the Church, T. Monson in 2008:

May we be men and women of honesty and integrity in everything we do.

and again in 2011:

May we be examples of honesty and integrity wherever we go and in whatever we do.

and this:

“A Latter-day Saint young man lives as he teaches and as he believes. He is honest with others. He is honest with himself. He is honest with God. He is honest by habit and as a matter of course."

Dallin H. Oaks reckons:

A lie is not always told in so many words. It may be a creature of concealment or a misrepresentation by action or a half-truth.

According to Elder Richard L Evans:

Truth or untruth is not always altogether a matter of literal language, but often of implication, of inflection, of innuendo, of subtle suggestion. A clever person intent on being untruthful can give a false impression, even when his literal words can little be called into question. ["The Spoken Word," Improvement Era (November 1961), p. 854]

During the last debate was your potential President, Mitt Romney being 'honest' in terms of how his Church Leaders would define 'honesty'?

[_subgenius]

nice straw grasping...but...
"Romney boasted that during his term as governor, Massachusetts had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America. "
was actually a true statement.

and you failed to read the study, or perhaps you conveniently missed this little gem:
"Many officials hold appointments with set terms; the Governor
at times may have no control over appointments to
those positions. At the same time, 84 (66 percent) of
appointed officials in office in 2002 were “rolled/held
over” in July 2004."

[_Drifting]

nice straw grasping...but...
"Romney boasted that during his term as governor, Massachusetts had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America. "
was actually a true statement.

and you failed to read the study, or perhaps you conveniently missed this little gem:
"Many officials hold appointments with set terms; the Governor
at times may have no control over appointments to
those positions. At the same time, 84 (66 percent) of
appointed officials in office in 2002 were “rolled/held
over” in July 2004."

If you read the OP you'll see I merely quoting a news article, some Church leaders, and asking a question. I have made no claims nor assertions.

[_subgenius]

nice straw grasping...but...
"Romney boasted that during his term as governor, Massachusetts had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America. "
was actually a true statement.

and you failed to read the study, or perhaps you conveniently missed this little gem:
"Many officials hold appointments with set terms; the Governor
at times may have no control over appointments to
those positions. At the same time, 84 (66 percent) of
appointed officials in office in 2002 were “rolled/held
over” in July 2004."

If you read the OP you'll see I merely quoting a news article, some Church leaders, and asking a question. I have made no claims nor assertions.

you did in your thread title.
just because someone says Mitt may have made a misleading statement does not justify the conclusion "honesty in question"....yet you have offered it.
merely quoting in this context is tantamount to perpetuating.

[_krose]

So is it true that Romney initiated an effort to find women for appointed positions, which resulted in his people bringing him binders full of women?

If that really happened the way he said, you have a valid point that Drifting and his source are grasping at straws. If not, his honesty certainly is again in question, as the title states.

[_Drifting]

So is it true that Romney initiated an effort to find women for appointed positions, which resulted in his people bringing him binders full of women?

Subby, yes or no?