$249 million: Another Obama bankruptcy

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$249 million: Another Obama bankruptcy

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A123 Systems Inc. (AONE), the electric car battery maker that received a $249 million federal grant, filed for bankruptcy protection after failing to make a debt payment that was due yesterday.

The filing may fuel further political debate over government financing of alternative-energy and transportation businesses. Federal grants and loans to companies including A123, Fisker Automotive Inc. and Tesla Motors Inc. have drawn scrutiny from congressional Republicans following the September 2011 bankruptcy filing of solar-panel maker Solyndra LLC two years after it received a $535 million loan guarantee from the U.S. Energy Department.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-16/electric-car-battery-maker-a123-systems-files-bankruptcy.html?cmpid=yhoo


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Yet today as part of Local Development Corporation for which I am the treasurer we had an alternative energy company come for a bridge loan on an expansion and that company which has received government grants, seems to be doing quite well and is ready to employe about 25 to 30 more people on our county and put $38 million into a plant expansion. The LDC works closely with the county government economic development staff. Indeed we pay the county for staff time to help run the LDC. I have watched us be about 90% successful over a 5 year period that I have been involved in funding projects that have been a great benefit to our county. This has persuaded me that private enterprise can be well assisted by government involvement.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Yet today as part of Local Development Corporation for which I am the treasurer we had an alternative energy company come for a bridge loan on an expansion and that company which has received government grants, seems to be doing quite well and is ready to employe about 25 to 30 more people on our county and put $38 million into a plant expansion. The LDC works closely with the county government economic development staff. Indeed we pay the county for staff time to help run the LDC. I have watched us be about 90% successful over a 5 year period that I have been involved in funding projects that have been a great benefit to our county. This has persuaded me that private enterprise can be well assisted by government involvement.

and this is a good trade-off for A123 having debtor/non-debtor employess of +1,700 employees and over $120 million gone?

with that sort of economic thinking you must have considered Solyndra a success as well!

no one is saying that government grants are a bad thing...but currently the guy giving the grants is a bad thing.
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A few more details:

Autoweek wrote:Lithium-ion battery maker A123 Systems Inc. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Tuesday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware. It said that auto supplier Johnson Controls Inc. has agreed to acquire its automotive battery business.

To facilitate the purchase, Johnson Controls is providing A123 with $72.5 million in post-bankruptcy financing to continue operations through the court process, the companies said in a statement. The total transaction price is $125 million, the statement said.

A123 said an earlier deal to sell an 80 percent stake in the company to China's Wanxiang Group had fallen through.

A123's troubles in part stem from the failure of its lithium-ion batteries--a Fisker Karma plug-in hybrid fitted with an A123 battery failed during an April test by Consumer Reports. Replacing the defective batteries is expected to cost A123 $66.8 million, including a $15 million inventory charge.

The problem was linked to incorrect calibration of an automated welding machine. The flaw could cause an electrical short, leading to battery failure, the company said.

About 26 percent of A123's revenue last year came from Fisker for the Karma battery. Next year, A123 will provide the batteries for the Chevrolet Spark EV that will be introduced by General Motors.

"GM is aware of the situation with battery supplier A123," GM spokeswoman Kim Carpenter said. "We are monitoring the situation, but we expect no delays in the Spark EV program."

Johnson Controls supplies batteries to Ford Motor Co., BMW and Daimler, among others.

The Johnson Controls deal includes A123's two battery plants in suburban Detroit. The company employs 700 people in Michigan. Johnson Controls already operates a lithium-ion plant in Holland, Mich.

Johnson Controls also will also acquire A123's cathode powder plant in China and its stake in Shanghai Advanced Traction Battery Systems Co., a joint venture with Shanghai Automotive.

In the Chapter 11 filing, A123 said it owes millions to hundreds of debtors, including the Michigan cities of Livonia, Novi and Romulus. A123 holds $376 million in debt with about $459.8 million in assets. Its largest debtor is U.S. Bank, which A123 owes $142.8 million.

"We believe the asset purchase agreement with Johnson Controls, coupled with a Chapter 11 filing, is in the best interests of A123 and its stakeholders at this time," A123 CEO David Vieau said in the statement.

"As we move through this transaction process, we expect to continue operating and working with customers and suppliers," he added.

Johnson Controls' interest in A123 Systems dovetails with the company's "commitment to the development of the advanced battery industry," Alex Molinaroli, president of the company's power solutions unit, said in the statement.

"Requirements for more energy efficient vehicles continue to increase, which is driving automotive manufacturers to pursue new technologies across a broad spectrum of powertrains and associated energy storage solutions," the statement said. "We believe that A123's automotive capabilities are a good complement to our existing portfolio and will further advance Johnson Controls' position as a market leader in this industry."

Rich Kwas, an automotive analyst for Wells Fargo Securities, said the deal makes sense for Johnson Controls because it "will broaden the company's lithium-ion technology offering and enhances its scale."

"Longer-term, the transaction should further solidify JCI's position in advanced batteries," Kwas wrote in a statement Tuesday. "According to A123's investor presentation, the company has 22 transportation programs that were sourced for production or in production spread across both commercial and light vehicle OEMs."

A123's filing comes one day after the Waltham, Mass.-based company filed a document with U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission stating that it would default Tuesday on payment for $143.8 million of notes that expire in 2016.

"The company may not have sufficient cash to fund operations and may need to seek the protections provided under the U.S. Bankruptcy Code," A123 said in the filing. "No assurance can be given that the company will be able to avoid restructuring, reorganization, or a bankruptcy filing."

A123 received a $249.1 million federal grant in 2009 to build its Livonia plant, but has struggled since, posting 14 straight quarterly losses.

In August, A123 announced a deal with China-based Wanxiang Group Corp. that would provide A123 $465 million in financing for an 80 percent stake. But the deal required approval from the U.S. and Chinese governments--which had not happened.

"We determined not to move forward with the previously announced Wanxiang agreement as a result of unanticipated and significant challenges to its completion," Vieau said in the statement.

A123 reported a second-quarter loss of $83 million. In July, A123 said it had only five months of cash remaining.

The bankruptcy filing may fuel further political debate over government financing of alternative-energy and transportation businesses. Federal grants and loans to companies including A123, Fisker and Tesla Motors Inc. have drawn scrutiny from congressional Republicans following the September 2011 bankruptcy filing of solar-panel maker Solyndra LLC two years after it received a $535 million loan guarantee from the U.S. Energy Department.

President Barack Obama called A123 CEO David Vieau and then-Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm during a September 2010 event celebrating the opening of the plant in Livonia, west of Detroit, that the company received the U.S. grant to help build.

"This is about the birth of an entire new industry in America--an industry that's going to be central to the next generation of cars," Obama said in the phone call, according to a transcript provided by the White House. "When folks lift up their hoods on the cars of the future, I want them to see engines and batteries that are stamped: Made in America."

Electric-vehicle sales since 2011 totaled fewer than 50,000 through September, just 5 percent of Obama's target to have 1 million such vehicles on U.S. roads by 2015.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said last month that Obama has picked "losers" for alternative-energy loans and grants. His running mate, Paul Ryan, has called for all green-energy subsidies to be eliminated.

The U.S. Department of Energy allotted about $90 billion for various clean-energy programs through the administration's stimulus package. Of that, at least $813 million went to energy companies that eventually filed for bankruptcy, including A123, Solyndra, Beacon, Abound Solar and EnerDel.

The Solyndra failure has been regularly cited in stump speeches leading up the Nov. 6 U.S. presidential election, including those of Romney, who argues that the government should not be in the business of picking corporate winners and losers.

"The riskiest strategy of all is not competing aggressively for the technologies of tomorrow and the jobs that come," Dan Leistikow, DOE director of public affairs, said in a blog post. "In an emerging industry, it's very common to see some firms consolidate with others as the industry grows and matures."

A123 had promised to create 38,000 U.S. jobs, including 5,900 at its own plants, in return for the government funding under the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act's Electric Drive Vehicle Battery and Component Manufacturing Initiative.

A123 has tapped $132 million of its 2009 grant, the DOE said. Johnson Controls, which supplies lithium-ion batteries to a number of vehicle manufacturers, also received a $299 million grant under the same program.

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Re: $249 million: Another Obama bankruptcy

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subgenius wrote:no one is saying that government grants are a bad thing...but currently the guy giving the grants is a bad thing.

This says it all. Your honesty is refreshing.

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krose wrote:
subgenius wrote:no one is saying that government grants are a bad thing...but currently the guy giving the grants is a bad thing.

This says it all. Your honesty is refreshing.

The opposition is not based on principle, but personal animosity.


Perhaps Government support is most helpful for the things that private industry can't do (such as the interstate road system of the 1950s, or the Manhattan Project).

But then there are things that private industry could do but they choose not to. For example, there are lots of people and firms that could have invested in Solyndra, but they all chose not to. I'm not so sure it's a good idea for the government to be involved with businesses at this level. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's a terrible idea. The government puts itself (and its chosen companies) in competition with other private money and firms, but the government isn't bound by the same restrictions and realities that other private firms are.

I don't have a problem with the government helping to equalize the costs of energy by incorporating factors like pollution into the costs. If there is an environmental cost to burning coal, then by all means, the cost of coal should reflect that. That's why I have less of a problem with gas taxes. But that's different than using tax-payer money to try and pick winners among new energy companies.
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cinepro wrote:Perhaps Government support is most helpful for the things that private industry can't do (such as the interstate road system of the 1950s, or the Manhattan Project).

But then there are things that private industry could do but they choose not to. For example, there are lots of people and firms that could have invested in Solyndra, but they all chose not to. I'm not so sure it's a good idea for the government to be involved with businesses at this level. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's a terrible idea. The government puts itself (and its chosen companies) in competition with other private money and firms, but the government isn't bound by the same restrictions and realities that other private firms are.

I don't have a problem with the government helping to equalize the costs of energy by incorporating factors like pollution into the costs. If there is an environmental cost to burning coal, then by all means, the cost of coal should reflect that. That's why I have less of a problem with gas taxes. But that's different than using tax-payer money to try and pick winners among new energy companies.

It appears you meant to respond to subgenius's comment that government grants are not bad. But I am curious how far you take the concept...

How do you feel about a state government giving special tax breaks to a company to lure it to their state?

How about a government setting itself up in competition to private enterprise by building libraries (undercutting bookstores by letting people read for free) and fitness centers? For that matter, how about public schools, competing with private schools using taxpayer money?

Governments have been giving grants to private institutions who apply and meet certain criteria for a long time, such as those doing certain research. Is that really such a "terrible idea"?

So you like the idea of taxing products to encourage other innovation. That's not a new idea. Some people have been advocating such a high tax on gasoline that alternative energy becomes economically feasible. That gets a lot of resistance from consumers, so instead we have been subsidizing oil companies.
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krose wrote:How do you feel about a state government giving special tax breaks to a company to lure it to their state?


That's a tough one. I'd have to say it's up to the local community (or state) to figure out if such a "break" is going to produce a net benefit. But from what I've read, they usually don't, so it could be producing pressure (and competition) between communities that leads them to make bad decisions. Ultimately, it's up to the government and the company to figure it out. But if I'm a voter and had to consider such a situation for my hometown, I'd probably vote against it. Especially if it involves a sports team.

How about a government setting itself up in competition to private enterprise by building libraries (undercutting bookstores by letting people read for free) and fitness centers? For that matter, how about public schools, competing with private schools using taxpayer money?


I'm a huge fan of libraries, but sometimes I do wonder how they benefit the community by letting people read romance novels or watch "The Hangover" DVD for free. I would like to see them transition to a paid model where people pay to check out books and movies and have them become revenue neutral (or even profitable). I don't think other tax-payers need to subsidize my love of reading.

I've never seen a government fitness center. If you're referring to national, state and local parks or things like that, I'm confident that they produce enough public benefit that it's a proper role for governments (and I also hope that the costs are passed along to users as directly as possible). This is definitely something I wouldn't leave solely to the "free market" to provide.


Governments have been giving grants to private institutions who apply and meet certain criteria for a long time, such as those doing certain research. Is that really such a "terrible idea"?


It's certainly possible for certain research projects to be properly supported by the government, but I think it's also possible (and likely) for such a program to waste money and abuse the privilege. At the very least, the results of tax-payer funded research should be freely available, such as this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/ ... c-research

So you like the idea of taxing products to encourage other innovation. That's not a new idea. Some people have been advocating such a high tax on gasoline that alternative energy becomes economically feasible. That gets a lot of resistance from consumers, so instead we have been subsidizing oil companies.


I don't believe in taxing products to encourage "other innovation". I believe in taxing products so the real cost of the product is reflected in the price. Whether this results in innovation is for the free market to decide.

As for subsidies to Oil Companies, this article points out that over half of the $4 billion in "subsidies" are for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, farm fuel exemptions (because farm equipment isn't used on roads), and assistance for low-income people to buy heating fuel.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/energysourc ... love-them/

So when we say we're "subsidizing oil companies", we should probably be very specific about what, exactly, we are objecting to.
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cinepro wrote:I've never seen a government fitness center.

Maybe you don't have those in Cali. Here in socialist Utah we have several county recreation centers. Some are little more than a pool and a gymnasium. The one near me also has a climbing wall, free weights and machines, and aerobics classes. I used to have my daughter's birthday parties there.

Your responses indicate a fairly consistent free-market approach.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Yet today as part of Local Development Corporation for which I am the treasurer we had an alternative energy company come for a bridge loan on an expansion and that company which has received government grants, seems to be doing quite well and is ready to employe about 25 to 30 more people on our county and put $38 million into a plant expansion.



1. The end will come eventually, Jason. None of this is viable. Its collapsing all over America and Europe even as we speak, and in any case, any idea or business model that requires government subsidy has, pretty much by definition, already admitted its lack of viability in a competitive free market.

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