Tithing on the Wages of Sin

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Re: Tithing on the Wages of Sin

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sock puppet wrote:Would the world be a much better place if God would provide food for the hungry, heal the sick and infirm, etc.


Sorry that would violate Starfleet General Order 1: "No starship may interfere with the normal development of any alien life or society."
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Fiannan wrote:You suppose that any LDS gals who are stripping (the economy is pretty bad if you aren't an Obama or a Romney) pay tithing on their tips?

No, I don't think they are. But if any were, it would make for fascinating dialogue here at MDB with such girls.
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If I elect to work on Sunday should I pay tithing on my Sunday earnings?
If I sell alcohol in my restaurant should I pay tithing on the profit?
If my hotel sells in-room porn should I pay tithing on those sales?
If I am a professional football player who only plays on Sunday should I pay tithing on my contract?
If I work for the FBI developing torture techniques should I pay tithing on my wages
If I made money selling real estate loans I knew people could not afford should I pay tithing on that money?
If I defended a criminal I knew to be guilty of a horrible crime should I pay tithing on my fees?
If I sold land to the LDS Church in Arizona for much more than it was worth should I pay tithing on the sale?

Let him who is without sin pay a full tithe.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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Re: Tithing on the Wages of Sin

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Fence Sitter wrote:If I elect to work on Sunday should I pay tithing on my Sunday earnings?
If I sell alcohol in my restaurant should I pay tithing on the profit?
If my hotel sells in-room porn should I pay tithing on those sales?
If I am a professional football player who only plays on Sunday should I pay tithing on my contract?
If I work for the FBI developing torture techniques should I pay tithing on my wages
If I made money selling real estate loans I knew people could not afford should I pay tithing on that money?
If I defended a criminal I knew to be guilty of a horrible crime should I pay tithing on my fees?
If I sold land to the LDS Church in Arizona for much more than it was worth should I pay tithing on the sale?

Let him who is without sin pay a full tithe.


In my opinion, a moral and honorable church that deems such to be wrong acts in the first place should reject attempted tithes on such 'increase'.

Does the LDS Church think that it is a 'sin' for a lawyer to provide a competent defense to someone that the attorney believes to have committed a horrible crime?

As for the land deal, doesn't that indict both the tithe-paying member that greedily sought more than the land was worth, particularly from a supposed non-profit organization, and the LDS Church for being foolish with its members' tithe dollars in paying too much.
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sock puppet wrote:
In my opinion, a moral and honorable church that deems such to be wrong acts in the first place should reject attempted tithes on such 'increase'.

I agree
Does the LDS Church think that it is a 'sin' for a lawyer to provide a competent defense to someone that the attorney believes to have committed a horrible crime?


I don't know the answer to this one and I don't think the question is restricted to the LDS Church, but rather applies to society as a whole. Is it okay to defend a jaywalker but not a child molester? Can I justify defending a horrible person because our systems believe everyone deserves a defense? I am glad that I do not have to make such decisions and also glad there are people who will.


As for the land deal, doesn't that indict both the tithe-paying member that greedily sought more than the land was worth, particularly from a supposed non-profit organization, and the LDS Church for being foolish with its members' tithe dollars in paying too much.



Yes
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Re: Tithing on the Wages of Sin

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Fence Sitter wrote:
sock puppet wrote:Does the LDS Church think that it is a 'sin' for a lawyer to provide a competent defense to someone that the attorney believes to have committed a horrible crime?


I don't know the answer to this one and I don't think the question is restricted to the LDS Church, but rather applies to society as a whole. Is it okay to defend a jaywalker but not a child molester? Can I justify defending a horrible person because our systems believe everyone deserves a defense? I am glad that I do not have to make such decisions and also glad there are people who will.

I too am glad there are lawyers who will defend them. After all, the criminal prosecution is a litigation in an attempt to find if the evidence is so compelling that it leaves no room for reasonable doubt about the accused's guilt. Until then, it is an accusation and unweighed evidence.

I confess that as a tax lawyer, I have not had to face the tough dilemma that I would face if doing criminal defense work. Criminal prosecutors have demons to face too--when they're case is not strong enough to convict, the accused is acquitted, and then the accused victimizes someone else.
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sock puppet wrote:I confess that as a tax lawyer, I have not had to face the tough dilemma that I would face if doing criminal defense work.


:eek:
tax lawyers are always doing criminal defense

hehe
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Re: Tithing on the Wages of Sin

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RockSlider wrote:
sock puppet wrote:I confess that as a tax lawyer, I have not had to face the tough dilemma that I would face if doing criminal defense work.


:eek:
tax lawyers are always doing criminal defense

hehe

hah!
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