why me wrote: Non-confrontational? Really? He guy films Mormon missionaries in secret and films a LDS institute in secret and asks questions from the people as if they were not being filmed and you call this honest? And of course, the people who are against the church are filmed normally in full view and not in secret. Wonderful and honest. The film is rather slanted against the Mormons but if you think that it is an honest film and gentle....well what can I say? And what about the woman at the end? Wonderful...interview...she hates christians in general. Wonderful bigoted woman.
Good grief Why me. You are making a lot of assumptions there. (mostly incorrect)
The woman at the end is talking about the effects of christianizing missionaries (no matter what sect) on her peoples Why Me...... Good grief. You disappoint me sometimes, but at least you bothered to watch it. So thankyou.
"It's a little like the Confederate Constitution guaranteeing the freedom to own slaves. Irony doesn't exist for bigots or fanatics." Maksutov
Why Me, can you not step out of your 'I must defend anything and everything about the LDS church no matter at what cost' and just see if from this quiet, gentle softly spoken Navajo man's perspective. Walk in his shoes, just for an hour.
"It's a little like the Confederate Constitution guaranteeing the freedom to own slaves. Irony doesn't exist for bigots or fanatics." Maksutov
Mary wrote:Why Me, can you not step out of your 'I must defend anything and everything about the LDS church no matter at what cost' and just see if from this quiet, gentle softly spoken Navajo man's perspective. Walk in his shoes, just for an hour.
Mary, I don't appreciate any film that secretly films people such as this person did to the young woman missionary and to the senior missionary. It reeks of a set up. And then, interview critics openly and on very good film. And to close with the Hawaiian professor who seemed very negative toward the LDS church and all other churches was quite a giveaway. It was a negative film that wanted to show the LDS church and its members in a bad light. And wonderfully edited to do so.
But the critics shown like a bright star in the sky.
Like I said, Mel Gibson has a great film about the lamanites and strangely it follows aspects of the Book of Mormon when it comes to the habits of the natives in central or south america. The people were cruel to others that did not belong to their tribe or village.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Mary wrote: Good grief Why me. You are making a lot of assumptions there. (mostly incorrect)
The woman at the end is talking about the effects of christianizing missionaries (no matter what sect) on her peoples Why Me...... Good grief. You disappoint me sometimes, but at least you bothered to watch it. So thankyou.
And the LDS chuch is the worse of the worse according to her. Now Mary, she was very negative toward Mormons. And she ended the film. Her word was the last word. I think that you wish to hear what you want to hear. It was a very negative film against the LDS church, complete with secret videoing of Mormons.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote: And the LDS chuch is the worse of the worse according to her. Now Mary, she was very negative toward Mormons. And she ended the film. Her word was the last word. I think that you wish to hear what you want to hear. It was a very negative film against the LDS church, complete with secret videoing of Mormons.
I couldn't disagree more. Why Me. Do you think that the past categorisation of Native Americans as Lamanites with all that that entails might have hurt/mislead those same peoples? Yes or No.
"It's a little like the Confederate Constitution guaranteeing the freedom to own slaves. Irony doesn't exist for bigots or fanatics." Maksutov
Mary wrote: I couldn't disagree more. Why Me. Do you think that the past categorisation of Native Americans as Lamanites with all that that entails might have hurt/mislead those same peoples? Yes or No.
Here is what I think. The Mormons considered the native americans a chosen people. Not bad really. And they lumped them in with the lamanites. What we do know is that the ancient civilization in mesoamerica were not exactly a peaceful people with beautiful practices when it came to outsiders. Mel's movie highlights this fact.
What hurt the native americans were not the Mormons but the US government who destroyed their civilization and put them on reservations to die of drink and drugs.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Mary wrote:Why Me, can you not step out of your 'I must defend anything and everything about the LDS church no matter at what cost' and just see if from this quiet, gentle softly spoken Navajo man's perspective. Walk in his shoes, just for an hour.
You know this will not happen. Extreme bias never seems to allow people like whyme to try and see things from any other perspective then their own.
why me wrote:Here is what I think. The Mormons considered the native americans a chosen people. Not bad really. And they lumped them in with the Lamanites. What we do know is that the ancient civilization in mesoamerica were not exactly a peaceful people with beautiful practices when it came to outsiders. Mel's movie highlights this fact.
What hurt the native americans were not the Mormons but the US government who destroyed their civilization and put them on reservations to die of drink and drugs.
Mormonism's claim that Native Americans are a chosen people is full of BS. The whites are given the blessings and Native Americans suffer the wrath of God. It is right in the Book of Mormon with the arrival of Columbus and the Europeans. See 1 Nephi Chapter 13.
Mormons cannot claim that the government caused the most harm. For hell sakes, it was a Utah Mormon in government that pushed the termination policy. Give me a break. And if you have such a gloom and doom perception of "drink and drugs" on reservations, you have no clue what the most beautiful people in the world are even about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azByeR3Ivfg
tapirrider wrote: Mormons cannot claim that the government caused the most harm. For hell sakes, it was a Utah Mormon in government that pushed the termination policy. Give me a break. And if you have such a gloom and doom perception of "drink and drugs" on reservations, you have no clue what the most beautiful people in the world are even about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azByeR3Ivfg
This is the real problem of the native americans. Not the Mormons.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith