Metal Music and the Loss of Faith

[_madeleine]

Are y'all Puritans?

I went through a long NIN phase, until a friend pointed out it was despairing. Which, is probably why I liked it. But then I went through a phase where I was anti-despair.

Not Puritans, just genre nerds. NIN is not metal in my book. But push back to industrial's genesis and you've got Einstürzende Neubauten. Love, love, love those guys. The proof is in my screen name.

:) I have never heard of Einstürzende Neubauten. I will check them out.

I went on a road trip once to Moab when the kiddies were hooked on Rammstein...my daughter's instigation. We listened to nothing but Rammstein for 4 days. Seriously. They wouldn't listen to anything else. It went well with our four wheel adventure.

[_sock puppet]

Remember Alex in A Clockwork Orange? Bach, Mozart.

Might be that we're taught, or conditioned, for what response to have to what type of music?

[_Nightlion]

Nightlion - "loss of faith" in the case of Mormonism has nothing to do with "metal" and everything to do with the simple fact that Mormonism ain't true.

Why blame Metal music, when Mormonism has all the flaws necessary for a person to "lose faith" in it all by itself?

I can appreciate that being lied to is grounds for disenfranchisement. It is not the Restoration's fault that the current LDS Church is unplugged from it purpose and has to hold up an image of a false god crafted in the likeness of the world according to their lust for the excellence of Babylon which is mostly greed in all things not just money.

I am a Zion man. And there yet lurks unseen and untapped the rudiments of a fabulous new world order. Yes, I said new world order. Once sufficient people have sacrificed their life in this world and subjected their free will to receive the will of the Father in all things and be taught and led by the Almighty God in all their thoughts and acts. That is Zion. That is what the Lord restored unto the Gentiles of whom many yearned for it seeking a holy city and coming to America in the hopes of establishing the kingdom of God for real here.

Damn, world controlling freakin' Druids caught wind of it and infiltrated the Pilgrims and spoiled their day. Did the same with the Restoration after Lorenzo Snow went to England and made a pact with them having already succumbed to the Devil in son of perdition fashion. Having betrayed Joseph at heart and later would initiate his death by deliberate orchestrations.

LDS have been made hypocrite by sin and rejecting the gospel and despising Zion and pretending otherwise for a money and cultural event of their own making.

You would shut your mouth about what you hastily suppose is the scriptural or Prophet Joseph Smith corruption had you ever partaken of the power of the gospel and been made a son or daughter of God by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. What you were left with was sheer defenselessness against the evil surmisings of constipated, I mean a conspiring league of haters gone wild.

[_Nightlion]

I can relate some classical with Beelzebub. Wagner for pete's sake. Did not the MoTab use a classical orgy art for an album cover back in the day? When a musician is on a power trip he might 'FORCE' your submission by exceptional virtuosity. Satan transforms himself to an angel of light. Why? To lord over on another and force their submission. This craft is certainly gone over-the-top in Metal. It abides more in cacophony like metal Jazz. I hate jazz. Simply practicing and never really creating substantively. Tossing crap on the canvas and not wanting to be judged for the garbage you make because you are technically excused in astounding virtuosity.

[_Tchild]

You would shut your mouth about what you hastily suppose is the scriptural or Prophet Joseph Smith corruption had you ever partaken of the power of the gospel and been made a son or daughter of God by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. What you were left with was sheer defenselessness against the evil surmisings of constipated, I mean a conspiring league of haters gone wild.

Your religious worldview is utterly exhausting. It is surprising you have the energy to even get out of bed in the morning

[_madeleine]

Remember Alex in A Clockwork Orange? Bach, Mozart. So many violent movie soundtracks set to classical music. Mozart again, in X2, when the Nightcrawler is teleporting all over the White House and all those secret service agents are shooting at him.

It has to be, classical music causes a loss of faith, perhaps also an appreciation for the arts with a simultaneous desire for murder and mayhem.

To clarify, I was being hyperbolic.

[_Fiannan]

I think the most interesting thing about heavy metal is that it is, essentially, classical music. Odd time signatures and tempos, multiple complementing melodies, virtuoso level talent, grandiose delivery, it has it all.

Saw a documentary on heavy metal a while back and they said the greatest influence on this genre of music today was Wagner.

[_Fiannan]

Remember Alex in A Clockwork Orange? Bach, Mozart. So many violent movie soundtracks set to classical music. Mozart again, in X2, when the Nightcrawler is teleporting all over the White House and all those secret service agents are shooting at him.

It has to be, classical music causes a loss of faith, perhaps also an appreciation for the arts with a simultaneous desire for murder and mayhem.

Seems most dystopian movies use classical music.