Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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This guy is truly pathetic. Willing to say anything to get elected.
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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Now probably isn't the best time for a Presidential candidate to start a discussion about the proper role for the federal government in using borrowed, taxed or printed money to help citizens that have been affected by a natural disaster.

Next thing you know, people will start talking about how natural disasters "help the economy"!
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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You'd make a great apologist cinepro. You think just like them. Spin, dodge, redirect, and then re-frame the issue to suit one's confirmation bias.

Nothing changes the fact that Romney is a liar who cannot be trusted. It is like voting for John Gee.
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/3 ... 44213.html

"Gov are you going to eliminate FEMA?"

"Gov you've been asked 14 times, why are you refusing to answer the question?"


During a GOP primary debate last year, Romney had said he supported the idea of states and private sector groups taking over responsibility for disaster relief.

"Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction," he said. "And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, 'In the federal budget, what we should cut?' we should ask the opposite question: 'What should we keep?'"

"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney continued, when asked specifically about disaster relief. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."

Those comments were highlighted in the wake of Hurricane Sandy as a sign of how Romney might respond to natural disasters. His campaign quickly clarified that Romney's emergency management response would include FEMA.
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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Kevin Graham wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/mitt-romney-fema_n_2044213.html

"Gov are you going to eliminate FEMA?"

"Gov you've been asked 14 times, why are you refusing to answer the question?"


During a GOP primary debate last year, Romney had said he supported the idea of states and private sector groups taking over responsibility for disaster relief.

"Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction," he said. "And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, 'In the federal budget, what we should cut?' we should ask the opposite question: 'What should we keep?'"

"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney continued, when asked specifically about disaster relief. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."

Those comments were highlighted in the wake of Hurricane Sandy as a sign of how Romney might respond to natural disasters. His campaign quickly clarified that Romney's emergency management response would include FEMA.


So where in the above did he say he would certainly trash FEMA? Of course Romney has a smaller government push things to the states and even private sector if it makes sense. How it that pathetic? Certainly you can disagree but it is a view that is not unique though it rarely seems to happen. I know Kevin you think endless government debt is quite alright because most of it is owed to the US people (in pensions, 401ks, etc.) and we can simply print our way out of it. But whether you care to admit it or not monetizing the debt can devastate purchasing power.

Ah well, in a week hopefully will know who the president is and we can get on with things. Whoever it is will have their work cut out for them. We are in a mess in so many ways.
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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Kevin Graham wrote:You'd make a great apologist cinepro. You think just like them. Spin, dodge, redirect, and then re-frame the issue to suit one's confirmation bias.

Nothing changes the fact that Romney is a liar who cannot be trusted. It is like voting for John Gee.



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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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Jason Bourne wrote:So where in the above did he say he would certainly trash FEMA?

This was a direct response to the specific question of what he would do with FEMA. His response was that we should let the states handle disasters, or even better, private companies (for a profit, one assumes).

It seems pretty clear, unless you want to believe that all his debate arguments were purely philosophical and theoretical musings, rather than statements of something he would actually do.
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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krose wrote:His response was that we should let the states handle disasters, or even better, private companies (for a profit, one assumes).


Why would you need to assume for-profit companies? There are many excellent non-profits that do great work. I suspect the American Red Cross does what it does better than any government agency would. And for less money.
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Re: Romney Flips on FEMA a Week before Election

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I guess Romney is backing off of his idea to eliminate the Federal Emergency system due to the enormity of this disaster. Sometimes politicians need to cover their butts due to all the crap they said in the past.

Wish President Romney would follow this up by offering a bunch of LDS relief supplies. by the way, Cinepro forgot to mention the Church as an excellent private business example. Hope that helps.
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