Did Anyone Bother to Notice.....???

[_Infymus]

I have no "secret" relationship with DCP. I have always been very open about my friendship with him. I never betrayed any confidences with you, Infy...not to DCP...not to anyone. You deleted my Mod status without even talking to me about it, and it was based solely on who I chose to be friends with. I am friends with a lot of different people. Just because I am friends with DCP doesn't mean I agree with everything he says or does. It's too bad you didn't at least have the balls to talk to me about it, but whatever. That one was your loss.

I chose to remove you as mod because you chose to remain Mormon despite all the evidence against the Cult. In that regard, you no longer fit on a site dedicated to Ex-Mormonism.

In addition, you spent a great deal of time here being the messenger to DCP. DCP reads this board, you talk to him phone/email, you respond to messages with an "abridged" watered down version. You try to prop him up and make him out to be some kind of loving, kind, generous guy who is just really really misunderstood. damned BS. DCP is narcissistic and snide, and your version has caused many people on MDB to challenge DCP to appear, NOT your "abridged" version of DCP's words.

DCP in my opinion, is a class "A" asshole. He caused me to lose a potential job because he baited me with attacking emails - then posted those emails on the Internet. I had to threaten him and SHIELDS with a lawsuit if they didn't take them down. His sole job is to lie, deceive, attack, discredit and tear down those seeking answers or those being critical. He uses any personal identities or personal information to attack people - and you having that personal information and being close friends with him is the issue.

Whatever your relationship is with DCP makes me very uncomfortable. And anything personal said in Moderation conference - or with members of this board or my board - is solely personal - and I don't want any of it getting back to DCP. My trust with you just came to an end. And watching what is going on here with you, Scratch and DCP, I believe my decision was correct.

[Guest]

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[_Fence Sitter]

But Meh ... maybe it is time to move on? wich is good advice to most people here in my opinion.

To where?

[_Kishkumen]

And it sounds like you lost yourself the job , or are you just a fish that can be baited?

Well, clearly this "Mktavish" character ought not to be trusted.... by ANYONE.

After all, s/he thinks publishing private emails on a website is hunky-dory. I don't care who you are, if you send me an email or PM, I will never publish that message on a website in order to use it against you.

The side of the active anti-mormon is becoming more and more hillarious ... Do they really expect (or even want) reasonable debate about Mormonism? Believing the church is not true and knowing people full well believe it is true ... what kind of people do they expect to come out of the woodwork in response to what appears to be (even from non believers) a frenzy feeding of sharks.

I hadn't particularly noticed that the apologists in the present discussion were actually all that interested in a "reasonable debate." A reasonable debate does not usually include character assassination in which you accuse the other person of being deceived by Satan. There's absolutely nothing reasonable about that.

[Guest]

And it sounds like you lost yourself the job , or are you just a fish that can be baited?

This is all long since water under the bridge. DCP published an email on SHIELDS. A search of my in real life name brings up SHIELDS. The contents of that email were posted. DCP and his cohort Stan Barker did this deliberately. They did it to dozens of other critics. SHIELDS is a place that allows DCP to present that negative, anti-spiritual - dark side of himself that he so carefully guarded on the NMI. That same side of DCP that has manifested itself over the last couple of months since he got the boot.

The side of the active anti-mormon is becoming more and more hillarious ... Do they really expect (or even want) reasonable debate about Mormonism?

The side of the anti-Mormon is easy. Just show the truth. Provide the facts. Show the history. Quote the prior leaders. The side of the Mopologist is the hilarious side if anything. Hide the history, claim the leaders were wrong, hide the truth, obfuscate the facts and attack the critic - provide nothing, solve nothing, answer nothing.

People like DCP? The truth isn't on his side - it never was and so he takes the position of attacking the critic like a trial lawyer would. If they are still Mormon - then drag them through Church courts and get them excommunicated so that Chapel Mormons won't touch their material. If they are not, then attack their reputation, bait them with emails until they respond negatively and then use that against them - do anything it takes to discredit or derail from the absolute truth. DCP has spent over a decade honing this skill. Shame his handlers don't agree with him and booted him out. I hope he continues his downward spiral until he is nothing than a mental patient drooling on his straight jacket.

[_sock puppet]

The side of the active anti-mormon is becoming more and more hillarious ... Do they really expect (or even want) reasonable debate about Mormonism? Believing the church is not true and knowing people full well believe it is true ... what kind of people do they expect to come out of the woodwork in response ...

Ex-mo critics were once TBMs. A funny thing happened on the way to the temple one day...stumbled over some inconvenient facts.

What kind of people do ex-mo critics expect to come out of the woodwork? All ilks of those questioning or curious about Mormonism, and its self-appointed avenging 'angels'. Both seem to show up, fairly predictably.

[Guest]

I have no "secret" relationship with DCP. I have always been very open about my friendship with him. I never betrayed any confidences with you, Infy...not to DCP...not to anyone. You deleted my Mod status without even talking to me about it, and it was based solely on who I chose to be friends with. I am friends with a lot of different people. Just because I am friends with DCP doesn't mean I agree with everything he says or does. It's too bad you didn't at least have the balls to talk to me about it, but whatever. That one was your loss.

I chose to remove you as mod because you chose to remain Mormon despite all the evidence against the Cult. In that regard, you no longer fit on a site dedicated to Ex-Mormonism.

In addition, you spent a great deal of time here being the messenger to DCP. DCP reads this board, you talk to him phone/email, you respond to messages with an "abridged" watered down version. You try to prop him up and make him out to be some kind of loving, kind, generous guy who is just really really misunderstood. f*****g BS. DCP is narcissistic and snide, and your version has caused many people on MDB to challenge DCP to appear, NOT your "abridged" version of DCP's words.

DCP in my opinion, is a class "A" asshole. He caused me to lose a potential job because he baited me with attacking emails - then posted those emails on the Internet. I had to threaten him and SHIELDS with a lawsuit if they didn't take them down. His sole job is to lie, deceive, attack, discredit and tear down those seeking answers or those being critical. He uses any personal identities or personal information to attack people - and you having that personal information and being close friends with him is the issue.

Whatever your relationship is with DCP makes me very uncomfortable. And anything personal said in Moderation conference - or with members of this board or my board - is solely personal - and I don't want any of it getting back to DCP. My trust with you just came to an end. And watching what is going on here with you, Scratch and DCP, I believe my decision was correct.

Did Liz know DCP had done this? If so, that is pretty damning knowing that her friends would harm critics with their in real life information.

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_Ceeboo]

Hey SP

Ex-mo critics were once TBMs.

Yes! This is something that I often forget when engaging on these boards.

A very important bit of information, in my opinion.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[Guest]

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[_Kishkumen]

I see no one had a problem with me calling it a cesspool though. I'm not condemning , just calling it what it is.

No, you are calling it as you see it. What it is is another question entirely.

I don't think anyone commented because, frankly, no one really values your opinion on the matter.

And they are right not to.