Shameful MDD thread

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Oh, Blixa, I am so sorry for what you are going through! Is your home OK? Did you guys have to evacuate? I forgot that you lived in NY. You and your family will be in my prayers. Facebook me if there is anything you need, OK?

I have not read the thread on MDD. It sounds like it is not worth a read. I can't believe how insensitive those comments are. Unbelievable!

I am sure Liz's feelings expressed here are echoed (with variations according to belief systems or unbelief systems) by many on this board.

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Timing.

Noah's flood and the drowning of Egyptian soldiers in the Red Sea chasing Moses et al. was (if either ever happened) thousands of years ago. The suffering incident to either has long since ended. The 'clean up' is done. Normal life restored.

While it is valid to point out that there was human suffering (worth sympathy now) at God's hand, per the Old Testament, it is not quite as pertinent as the suffering taking place real time, right now along the Eastern Seaboard. It is particularly unsympathetic and callous to claim it is God's will while people are currently suffering from it.

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Timing.

Noah's flood and the drowning of Egyptian soldiers in the Red Sea chasing Moses et al. was (if either ever happened) thousands of years ago. The suffering incident to either has long since ended. The 'clean up' is done. Normal life restored.
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Hmm. I wonder if an immortal and unchanging being can claim any kind of statute of limitations when his previous misdemeanors are being raised?

I mean, some theologians would see the Abrahamic deity's experience of time as one eternal present, in which his supposed drowning of the whole human race apart from Noah's family is as immediately perceptible to him as what he is alleged to have (in human terms) just done on the eastern seaboard of the US.

I still think that this being's attorney might be best advised simply to say his client does not recognize the court's jurisdiction, and leave it at that. After all, how could one ever enforce an arrest warrant?

[_Morley]

This probably should go under the pinned Definitive MADhouse Quote Page, but the entire thread is filled with even more disgusting ignorance that what MDD is so well known for. Nearly everyone in the thread should be ashamed of themselves, not just incompetents like Zakuska:

Hurricane Sandy and the New York Destruction Prophecy

That's right, hope for the deaths of your fellow human beings while you hypocritically claim to be "praying" for them and parsing your millennialist fantasies of destruction. What kind of mentality is capable of making statements like this?

...I have many friends in the projected path unfortunately they are all atheist.

D&C 42:
45 Thou shalt live together in love, insomuch that thou shalt weep for the loss of them that die, and more especially for those that have not hope of a glorious resurrection.

46 And it shall come to pass that those that die in me shall not taste of death, for it shall be sweet unto them;

47 And they that die not in me, woe unto them, for their death is bitter.

Or screwed up jokes like this?

It's targeting Snookie next (what ever will the reality TV junkies do?!)

Or this expert's bloviating:

I think it is just a lot of hype about Sandy...Post Katrina & Ike, governments just want to get everyone out (this tends to create a bit of histeria).

I never go over there. You've reminded me why. It's partially the insular, we-them mentality; and partially the slack-jawed, mind-numbing, eat-your-boogers-in-front-of-everybody ignorance.

I'm half sick over Sandy, as it is. I don't need a room full of bigoted idiots to make it worse.

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It is particularly unsympathetic and callous to claim it is God's will while people are currently suffering from it.

Seems to me like the same sort of comments came from there in the aftermath of Katrina, the tsunami, and virtually every other natural disaster lately. There is nothing in Mormon doctrine or culture that justifies that kind of callousness.

[Guest]

I heard talk of a prophecy of Katrina BEFORE Katrina happened (as if it never would). Phrased as just punishment on NO.

I was worried about you Blixa, almost asked Lulu to call you to see if you were OK, but my browser was terminally ill.

[_Fence Sitter]

Seems to me like the same sort of comments came from there in the aftermath of Katrina, the tsunami, and virtually every other natural disaster lately. There is nothing in Mormon doctrine or culture that justifies that kind of callousness.

Maybe not, but I think there is a lot of stuff in Mormonism that encourages it. (Persecution complex, God's chosen people, evil will be punished, sins of the fathers and so on.) By the way it is the kind of mentality that when combined with the wrong type of personality can lead to people like the Lafferty brothers.

[_Stormy Waters]

Timing.

Noah's flood and the drowning of Egyptian soldiers in the Red Sea chasing Moses et al. was (if either ever happened) thousands of years ago. The suffering incident to either has long since ended. The 'clean up' is done. Normal life restored.

While it is valid to point out that there was human suffering (worth sympathy now) at God's hand, per the Old Testament, it is not quite as pertinent as the suffering taking place real time, right now along the Eastern Seaboard. It is particularly unsympathetic and callous to claim it is God's will while people are currently suffering from it.

I guess the question is how long does it take until it is no longer offensive to say that some tragic event was God's punishment?
Can I say the earthquake in Japan was God's punihsment yet? The Tsunamis of 2004? How about 9/11? Maybe the Oklahoma City bombing? Surely the halocaust is fair game by now. How many years does it take until it is no longer offensive to declare tragedies as God's wrath?

[_Blixa]

You'd think they'd express a passing concern for their Mormon sisters and brothers in New Jersey, NY & CT. At least something more than their deaths will be sweet.

I KNOW! I was really gobsmacked that there weren't comments of that kind. Perhaps the Mods closed it down before such sentiments were posted. I can only hope.

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Timing.

Noah's flood and the drowning of Egyptian soldiers in the Red Sea chasing Moses et al. was (if either ever happened) thousands of years ago. The suffering incident to either has long since ended. The 'clean up' is done. Normal life restored.

While it is valid to point out that there was human suffering (worth sympathy now) at God's hand, per the Old Testament, it is not quite as pertinent as the suffering taking place real time, right now along the Eastern Seaboard. It is particularly unsympathetic and callous to claim it is God's will while people are currently suffering from it.

I guess the question is how long does it take until it is no longer offensive to say that some tragic event was God's punishment?
Can I say the earthquake in Japan was God's punihsment yet? The Tsunamis of 2004? How about 9/11? Maybe the Oklahoma City bombing? How many years does it take until it is no longer offensive to declare tragedies as God's wrath?

I think it depends on who your audience is, and that is affected by timing. People who lost family members, even grandparents, in OKC bombing for example, would likely feel the sting of unsympathetic comments even 40 years after the fact.

I doubt anyone today, that might read comments made now about Noah's flood being God's will would have emotional impact from those drowned in that flood.

Commenting about Hurricane Sandy today being God's will seems rather callous given, for example, the impact directly on people that read internet message boards, such as Blixa who lives in the midst of Sandy's destruction and is now dealing with impacts of it on her life and that of the people she deals with daily, like her students.

Not talking about what it all says about an 'eternal' and never changing God--there's lots of changes between God of Old Testament and God of New Testament and God of Mormon 'restoration' anyway. I am referring to what it suggests about MAD posters, who did not live in Old Testament times but are living in the time of Hurricane Sandy.