Did Anyone Bother to Notice.....???

[_Kishkumen]

Let's be honest. Why don't you all just throw out all the rules and let Scratch make 'em up as he goes along, especially now that Liz is out, there's no one to even bring up the rules.

Why don't you flail about wildly, say stupid crap, and hope that some moron other than you buys into it?

Oh wait! You just did!

It was Liz's job as mod to enforce Rule #7, when Scratch broke it.

Instead, she violated the spirit of Rule #7 by revealing information she believed would lead others to the in real life identity of Scratch.

If a mod cannot enforce or even abide by the rules of the board, that person ought not to be a moderator.

[_Darth J]

And once again we see the double standard alive and well at Mormondiscussions.

If you all think Liz broke rule number 7, then Scratch did too--and Scratch did it first.

Scratch brought up Pahoran's divorce and THEN Liz countered with Democrats in Taiwan. All those who claim what Liz did was a violation, will have no choice but to admit that what Scratch did was clearly was a violation also.

Ms. Jack posted earlier to show where Pahoran mentioned his divorce--and of course, the information was NOT shared here--it was posted on MADB. Scratch posted in real life information. he got from MADB--a violation of Rule 7.

Universal Rule #7: Do not reveal personal or "in real life" information about any poster on this site that he or she has not explicitly revealed here.

The word "here" means Mormondiscussions and Pahoran did NOT share that information here, therefore Scratch took information from an outside source and revealed it here. Pahoran is a member here, so it clearly was a violation.

Liz has stepped down as a Moderator and while she revealed information that was from an outside source; From all who claim to know Scratch's identity, the information was not even about him, therefore, it was NOT an explicit violation since the person the information was about claims not to be a member here. No harm, no foul.

Liz is no longer a moderator because of this whole mess, so if you wanted her 'punished', I'd say you got your wish. But now the question is....What are you all going to do about Scratch? What will be done about his breaking Rule #7 in taunting Pahoran about his divorce?

Let me guess...you all will make excuses to rationalize what he did and NOTHING will be done.

Let's be honest. Why don't you all just throw out all the rules and let Scratch make 'em up as he goes along, especially now that Liz is out, there's no one to even bring up the rules.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to tell Alter Idem that Scratch has in fact been suspended in the past for revealing in real life information, and that Alter Idem has failed to identify a single person who thinks Scratch should get a free pass.

The fact that Liz (and you) are relying on a ham-fisted tu quoque does not mean anyone thinks Scratch should get to break Rule 7. Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. It is a non sequitur.

[_beastie]

And once again we see the double standard alive and well at Mormondiscussions.

If you all think Liz broke rule number 7, then Scratch did too--and Scratch did it first.

Scratch brought up Pahoran's divorce and THEN Liz countered with Democrats in Taiwan. All those who claim what Liz did was a violation, will have no choice but to admit that what Scratch did was clearly was a violation also.

Sure, it was a violation for which he should be dinged. But this isn't just about being dinged, it's about being a moderator. I have stated I think this is a decision only Shades can make, but I certainly understand the viewpoint of those who have expressed discomfort with the idea of a moderator being willing to expose private, real-life information about a poster who has deliberately remained anonymous.

Let me guess...you all will make excuses to rationalize what he did and NOTHING will be done.

Let's be honest. Why don't you all just throw out all the rules and let Scratch make 'em up as he goes along, especially now that Liz is out, there's no one to even bring up the rules.

I am sick to death of this silly generalization.

[_Drifting]

Alter Idem,

What would you expect should happen if a moderator was intrinsically involved in posting items on this board that were designed to out YOUR in real life identity?

[_Darth J]

I still wonder how Liz figured that she was helping things by utilizing the Streisand effect in the OP in an attempt to justify herself, instead of deleting personal information that Pahoran did not want posted on the board.

[_sock puppet]

@Alter Idem

Seems Pahoran, the originator of the in real life hints, and Scratch, who retaliated like liz, have neither been suspended for that specific thread in real life indiscretions that are the topic.

Now, show me how it is a double standard that Scratch did not get punished because Pahoran didn't either? Keep in mind, neither is a Mod, with the higher duty.

[_MCB]

I winced when the first person called me Mary on this board, but you don't want Dale Broadhurst to get banned from this board for life, do you?

[_Yoda]

I still wonder how Liz figured that she was helping things by utilizing the Streisand effect in the OP in an attempt to justify herself, instead of deleting personal information that Pahoran did not want posted on the board.

I was under the impression that Pahoran had mentioned his divorce on MDB previously. Therefore, it would not have been against the rules for Scratch to mention it, but basically a very low thing to do. In hindsight, what I should have done in that case was to move that particular post to the Telestial Forum, since it was a personal attack. And, my personal attack (if it is viewed as such) could have been housed in Telestial as well.

Oh, well...water under the bridge. I am no longer a Mod.

[_Eric]

I for one, thought you were a good mod until seeing what you did to out Dr. Scratch...

+1,000

[_Res Ipsa]

I was under the impression that Pahoran had mentioned his divorce on MDB previously. Therefore, it would not have been against the rules for Scratch to mention it, but basically a very low thing to do. In hindsight, what I should have done in that case was to move that particular post to the Telestial Forum, since it was a personal attack. And, my personal attack (if it is viewed as such) could have been housed in Telestial as well.

Oh, well...water under the bridge. I am no longer a Mod.

What you should have done is moved Dr. Scratch's comment to Telestial and not responded.

But, look, I think everyone gets that being a good moderator is hard. It's especially hard in a polarized forum like this one, where personal grudges date from the internet cretaceous period. So, any moderator is going to screw up. It happens.

You screwed up by posting information that could lead to the identification of an anonymous poster.

What you should have done when the screw up was pointed out to you was to (1) admit you screwed up; (2) apologized; and (3) cleaned up your mess.

I'm not that bothered by the original screw up. I'm very bothered by the failure to own the screw up, your blaming the screw up on anyone but yourself, and the failure to recognize that, as a moderator, you had certain responsibilities to the folks here that you couldn't just discard because you were posting "as a man."