Anger, Vitriol, Angst.

[_Ceeboo]

Good morning, honor

golfers or people who play real sports -

Ceeboo angry!

Wondering what rests under the Ceeboo-mask during this moment of anger?

- Why do we share this common character? What are the underlying mechanism that drive this and how did we acquire them?

It is the "acquire" part that I struggle with.
Strikes me as an odd word choice and I'm not conviced that it really fits.

in my opinion, we use these expressions (anger, angst, vitriol, etc) as a way to hide, deflect, and/or cope with what rests below...... pain, hurt, disappointement, fear, etc). They seem to be a part of the creation (Assuming there is a Creator). legs of a chair, radiator of a car, etc.

- As you pointed out earlier in the thread: if two people with surficial common belief systems seem to act on these emotions differently at different times with different degrees of consequence, wherefore this difference?

I don't know, but I believe it is a thought provoking and most interesting question.

- Why act on these emotions? Are there instances when they give rise to the best possible response? Are there instances when the failure to control or bridle our response leads to negative consequences? I believe LDST or sock puppet asked if it was wrong to ever be angry? That's a good question and should be followed up with a question of when it's right or wrong to do so.

I agree that these are very good questions (I look forward to someone supplying the answers)

Does that muddy the water back up?

Not at all, your post was very helpful and much appreciated!

Thanks, honor.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_honorentheos]

Hi Ceeboo -

golfers or people who play real sports -

Ceeboo angry!

Wondering what rests under the Ceeboo-mask during this moment of anger?

:) While I doubt you are really mad, isn't it interesting that by knowing a little information we can push people's buttons causing them to feel at least a twinge of...something that could lead to anger?

Why do you think you might have felt real anger if you were to have perceived this as a real slight and not just a friendly jab? Or is there a difference in what is felt either way? Is the difference only in how one acts on this initial emotion?

I ask because I'm not sure about two things:

Do you think that these "legs on the chair" have a purpose put there by a Creator? or something else?

Second, is it wrong to feel these things? or to act on them? Are there rules you personally accept as true that guide this?

This is why I mentioned earlier my own thoughts on my own responses and where they might come from. That despite being far from a believing theist today I believe my Mormon upbringing influences the way I'd answer these questions. And because of this, I don't feel capable of answering the questions completely independant of religion.

On the other hand I feel religion is incapable of explaining this adequately in a way that corresponds with real life. And relying solely on any one religious tradition makes this even less likely, in my opinion. I may be wrong, but this seems to be what LDST, sock puppet, zeezrom and ludwigm were getting at when bringing Christ and the temple/fig tree into the discussion. What does the story of Christ have to teach us on this matter that we can hope to actually apply?

[_Nightlion]

Interestingly I have been wrestling with my trite anger issues of late. When I am right with all things in my faith hope and charity anger cannot touch me. When I am the slightest bit askew from perfect uprightness of heart it is anger that causes me to be first aware. The absurd things that anger me cannot be of any consequence. Mostly common everyday annoyances. (never this board)

If physical pain were the alarm it would be confounding and confusing. I suggest therefore that anger is a symptom of wrong thinking. My situation probably does not template well for others. I have a commitment to do the will of the Father and he is obligated to keep me in the traces and holds the bit between my teeth and for his purposes leads my thoughts all the day long. Until I watch TV.

Usually that is simply fine and I enjoy my life immeasurably. Like a dumb ox I kick against the pricks in the frustration of my constraints. Why cannot I get any cooperation and find a second saint anywhere on the planet.......? I know that for cause He has kept me at odds with all else. It is remarkably productive and yet galling to no end.

Anger is always a shameful thing. I doubt Christ was pleased to have cursed the fig tree. Anger is the friction in our souls that cries out for a balm to ease our stupidity. I cannot fathom dealing with it atheistically. That is too strange. Why the very existence of anger proves evolution false. But neither does anger invent religion. Anger proves that within us is a better angel. If life evolved there would be only a singularity within us. Since there is duality at heart we are from above and from beneath at the same time. This is obvious.

So is anger our growing pangs? If our soul is expanding it must therefore be real. Not anger only but all joys and sorrows show the same thing. These are not my best thoughts about it. Just kicking it around some.

[_sock puppet]

Interestingly I have been wrestling with my trite anger issues of late. When I am right with all things in my faith hope and charity anger cannot touch me. When I am the slightest bit askew from perfect uprightness of heart it is anger that causes me to be first aware. The absurd things that anger me cannot be of any consequence. Mostly common everyday annoyances. (never this board)

If physical pain were the alarm it would be confounding and confusing. I suggest therefore that anger is a symptom of wrong thinking. My situation probably does not template well for others. I have a commitment to do the will of the Father and he is obligated to keep me in the traces and holds the bit between my teeth and for his purposes leads my thoughts all the day long. Until I watch TV.

Usually that is simply fine and I enjoy my life immeasurably. Like a dumb ox I kick against the pricks in the frustration of my constraints. Why cannot I get any cooperation and find a second saint anywhere on the planet.......? I know that for cause He has kept me at odds with all else. It is remarkably productive and yet galling to no end.

Anger is always a shameful thing. I doubt Christ was pleased to have cursed the fig tree. Anger is the friction in our souls that cries out for a balm to ease our stupidity. I cannot fathom dealing with it atheistically. That is too strange. Why the very existence of anger proves evolution false. But neither does anger invent religion. Anger proves that within us is a better angel. If life evolved there would be only a singularity within us. Since there is duality at heart we are from above and from beneath at the same time. This is obvious.

So is anger our growing pangs? If our soul is expanding it must therefore be real. Not anger only but all joys and sorrows show the same thing. These are not my best thoughts about it. Just kicking it around some.

Nightlion, if I were to admit the existence of such a thing as a prophet (which would also require that I admit of such as thing as a god), I swear you'd fit the bill better than anyone else I've been exposed to. Much better than those posers in the COB.