Pahoran: Make your case for libel against DCP or shut up

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Re: Pahoran: Make your case for libel against DCP or shut up

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Kevin Graham wrote:The fact that Pahoran had to lurk here in silence, refusing to address Darth J's points, in hopes that someone would make a comment which he could spin to change the subject as he plays the poor, persecuted victim, pretty much validate's Kish's assessment.

I know he's said plenty of other hideous things about other folks as well. On my old forum a poster told me Pahoran essentially called his wife a whore.


Kevin,

What?! Pahoran calls his second wife a "whore"? I can't believe that. Next you're going to be telling me that Will Schryver is a misogynist or that Ray A is insane.

Oh, wait.......
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:The fact that Pahoran had to lurk here in silence, refusing to address Darth J's points, in hopes that someone would make a comment which he could spin to change the subject as he plays the poor, persecuted victim, pretty much validate's Kish's assessment.

I know he's said plenty of other hideous things about other folks as well. On my old forum a poster told me Pahoran essentially called his wife a whore.


Kevin,

What?! Pahoran calls his second wife a "whore"? I can't believe that. Next you're going to be telling me that Will Schryver is a misogynist or that Ray A is insane.

Oh, wait.......


That's right, Kevin--I remember that. And Everybody Wang Chung, you're just a bit "off." What happened was that Pahoran was doing his usual shtick with some guy called, If I recall correctly, "Thunderchops." I don't remember the specifics, but I'm pretty sure that Pahoran did indeed call this guy's wife a "whore" or something to that effect. Thunderchops cited this as one of the main things that motivated him to exit the LDS Church.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
That's right, Kevin--I remember that. And Everybody Wang Chung, you're just a bit "off." What happened was that Pahoran was doing his usual shtick with some guy called, If I recall correctly, "Thunderchops." I don't remember the specifics, but I'm pretty sure that Pahoran did indeed call this guy's wife a "whore" or something to that effect. Thunderchops cited this as one of the main things that motivated him to exit the LDS Church.


Wow! I guess it's true what they say, "every member a missionary". Thanks, Pahoran.
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Kevin Graham wrote:The fact that Pahoran had to lurk here in silence, refusing to address Darth J's points, in hopes that someone would make a comment which he could spin to change the subject as he plays the poor, persecuted victim, pretty much validate's Kish's assessment.

Pahoran is a coward among cowards and his despicable antics are well known to us all. No surprises here. He cannot debate points effectively and intelligently. He has to play the victim card for sympathy votes in almost every "debate" he pretends to engage. He's asserted in the past that I would have killed Joseph Smith among his assassins, had I been alive in that day. I know he's said plenty of other hideous things about other folks as well. On my old forum a poster told me Pahoran essentially called his wife a whore.

Don't recall anyone called Kevin Graham being reported as among the assassins of Joe. This Pahoran must be sorely mistaken. It is not gentlemanly to call anyone's wife a whore. If Pahoran is a Mormon, he should know the proper term is that she is a woman sealed to more than one man.

I thought I should add, these days Joe does not use the language of sealings. When he sees a young lady particularly from behind, he merely says he'd like to 'tap that'.
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Lilburn Boggs wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:The fact that Pahoran had to lurk here in silence, refusing to address Darth J's points, in hopes that someone would make a comment which he could spin to change the subject as he plays the poor, persecuted victim, pretty much validate's Kish's assessment.

Pahoran is a coward among cowards and his despicable antics are well known to us all. No surprises here. He cannot debate points effectively and intelligently. He has to play the victim card for sympathy votes in almost every "debate" he pretends to engage. He's asserted in the past that I would have killed Joseph Smith among his assassins, had I been alive in that day. I know he's said plenty of other hideous things about other folks as well. On my old forum a poster told me Pahoran essentially called his wife a whore.

Don't recall anyone called Kevin Graham being reported as among the assassins of Joe. This Pahoran must be sorely mistaken. It is not gentlemanly to call anyone's wife a whore. If Pahoran is a Mormon, he should know the proper term is that she is a woman sealed to more than one man.

I thought I should add, these days Joe does not use the language of sealings. When he sees a young lady particularly from behind, he merely says he'd like to 'tap that'.


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Lilburn Boggs wrote:I thought I should add, these days Joe does not use the language of sealings. When he sees a young lady particularly from behind, he merely says he'd like to 'tap that'.

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Re: Pahoran: Make your case for libel against DCP or shut up

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Kevin,

What?! Pahoran calls his second wife a "whore"? I can't believe that. Next you're going to be telling me that Will Schryver is a misogynist or that Ray A is insane.

Oh, wait.......

That's right, Kevin--I remember that. And Everybody Wang Chung, you're just a bit "off." What happened was that Pahoran was doing his usual shtick with some guy called, If I recall correctly, "Thunderchops." I don't remember the specifics, but I'm pretty sure that Pahoran did indeed call this guy's wife a "whore" or something to that effect. Thunderchops cited this as one of the main things that motivated him to exit the LDS Church.

Actually Scratch, you don't remember that.

Largely because it never happened.

What you remember is this post from back in August 2008:

Kevin Graham, posting as Dartagnan wrote:There was a guy who posted briefly on my old forum named Thunderchops. Some of you might remember him, or maybe his avatar. It was a photo of him and his huge sideburns. Anyway, he told the forum that Pahoran once called his wife a whore in the ZLMB chatroom. He said that if given the chance, he would beat the snopt out of him if he ever met him.

So Kevin merely reports gossip; Scratch accepts it uncritically (of course) and repeats it as fact.

Naturally.

But it's not a fact. "Thunderchops" claims that this happened in the ZLMB chatroom. Why the chatroom? Well, it turns out that chatroom conversations aren't saved; you can say anything you like about what transpired in a chatroom, and nobody can prove otherwise.

Which is why "Thunderchops," whoever he is or was, told Kevin that: so that nobody could check up on his accusation.

The fact is that not only did I not say anything to "Thunderchops" about his wife in the ZLMB chatroom, I have no recollection of ever using it at all.

Whoever originated this story is lying.

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Pahoran,

Who told you Darth J's identity?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Pahoran,

Who told you Darth J's identity?

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So, let's see: it's a case of Thunderchops's story against Pahoran's. Does Pahoran have a history of being fair and honest? I wonder who I should believe.....
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