To BCSpace: Civil War II?

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Bob Loblaw wrote:
ajax18 wrote:Even if both sides wanted it?


You seem to imagine that people in the south are monolithically conservative and "red" whereas everyone in blue states is a liberal. That's silly, as is the idea of secession.


So have people move to the country that suits them better. There were Tories during the revolutionary war.
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What I implied is that Democrats are no longer American in any traditional, moral, or rational sense.

So if the president of the United States isn't American in any traditional, moral, or rational sense, would you or would you not support the Constitution that elected him?


Obama has provided no evidence that he is constitutionally eligible to serve. I support the Constitution in this matter.
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The United States Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) that unilateral secession was unconstitutional while commenting that revolution or consent of the states could lead to a successful secession.


So if we agree on it, why can't we do this divorce.
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bcspace wrote:Obama has provided no evidence that he is constitutionally eligible to serve. I support the Constitution in this matter.

What does it mean to "support the Constitution in this matter?"

Are you suggesting that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court doesn't "support the Constitution in this matter?"

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Democrats are no longer American in any traditional, moral, or rational sense.


:lol:

Where are you Jason? If I had said anything remotely similar to this you'd be all over me within an hour for generalizing one side in a negative way.

But hey, bc and I are essentially two sides of the same coin, right?

Bcspace has sold his soul to the Right Wing Devil, plain and simple. Once you've elevated the rhetoric to this level, you don't only excuse yourself from rational discourse, but you also become a serious threat to society. This is precisely the kind of thinking that drove Ted Kazinski and the Oklahoma City bomber.

But let's just pretend silence, or in Bob's case, "bcspace doesn't speak for me," is the only kind of condemnation that's necessary here. Let's save the real indignation for folks like me who say Republicans generally don't care about the poor. Because you know, the latter is far more serious.
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I've said the same thing ever since I started posting on on the internet. Haven't blown anyone up yet.

:wink:

But liberals have said similar things about Republicans for years.
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bcspace wrote:I've said the same thing ever since I started posting on on the internet. Haven't blown anyone up yet.

:wink:

But liberals have said similar things about Republicans for years.


"Yet," being the operative word.

I've never heard anyone on the left question whether Republicans can be called legitimate Americans. Never.

Yet this has been a theme song on FOX News for YEARS now.

It just doesn't get any more divisive than that, when you've equated your political views with what it is to be "truly American" and equated everyone else's with anti-Americanism.
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Cinepro asked the question previously as to what the conservative booster-backers would say if Obama won the electoral vote and Romney won the electoral vote.

This would seem to be another canary in the mine moment for the previous heel clicking allegiance given by Conservatives to the Constitution.

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Cinepro asked the question previously as to what the conservative booster-backers would say if Obama won the electoral vote and Romney won the electoral vote.


The war goes on. With new leadership most likely. Romney himself would be fine, but I don't think he has another one in him plus he'll be 4 years older. But a new strategy for sure and a new group of strategists. I've always said they need to concentrate on so-called "minorities" and I'm quite certain it can be done without compromising conservative principles.
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bcspace wrote:
You said that the time for peaceful acceptance of Democrats is long past.


Yes, in terms of Honorenthos' definition of peace which implies just accepting the outcome, even if the Democrats win, and just "go home".

That's not what I said, BC.

As I said in the other thread, if respectful disagreement is now a lost art, its not a failure of the virtue of the form. Maybe you perceive only subtle difference in that statement from your interpretation. If so, then might I suggest putting your mental sledgehammer back into the intellectual tool box in favor of a more refined instrument?
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