This image depicts St. Joan of Arc being visited by heavenly angels but it reminds of how things could have been with Joseph Smith.
The First Vision Variant
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_zeezrom
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The First Vision Variant
I wonder how Mormonism might be different today had Heavenly Father visited the farm boy with his wife instead of with his son. In what ways do you think it would be different today?
This image depicts St. Joan of Arc being visited by heavenly angels but it reminds of how things could have been with Joseph Smith.
This image depicts St. Joan of Arc being visited by heavenly angels but it reminds of how things could have been with Joseph Smith.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
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Maid of Orléans, meet the young Master of Palmyra.
You don't suppost Jeanne d'Arc returned with a flaming sword, do you?
You don't suppost Jeanne d'Arc returned with a flaming sword, do you?
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zeezrom wrote:I wonder how Mormonism might be different today had Heavenly Father visited the farm boy with his wife instead of with his son. In what ways do you think it would be different today?
This image depicts St. Joan of Arc being visited by heavenly angels but it reminds of how things could have been with Joseph Smith.
Beautiful painting. I can't help noticing the very heavy angelwear of the young fellow and how totally unimpressed the cows are.
It reminds me of how bad things turned out for little Joan. It also reminds me of how bad things turned out for little Joe.
Maybe it's best not to have visitations at all.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
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"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
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I love reading replies on this board.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
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zeezrom wrote:I love reading replies on this board.
... pictures ...
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ludwigm wrote: ... pictures ...
The Maid of Orléans
The young Master of Palmyra (Note the Cougar blue)
This pairing by Zeezrom is quite remarkable.
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moksha wrote:ludwigm wrote: ... pictures ...
The Maid of Orléans
The young Master of Palmyra (Note the Cougar blue)
God, how beautiful clothing was back then!
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
The Holy Sacrament.
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If God had visited Joseph with his wife instead of his son, it certainly would have strengthened the position of Heavenly Mother as part of the LDS doctrine.
Even if all three had appeared, I think it would have been appropriate. (Father, Mother, Son.)
Even if all three had appeared, I think it would have been appropriate. (Father, Mother, Son.)
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Yeah, but women were considered to be chattel. Why would God give equal rights to a woman in the 18th century?
Anyway, we still have the Speed of Light issue reference the First Vision (& subsequent visions) to deal with...
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Anyway, we still have the Speed of Light issue reference the First Vision (& subsequent visions) to deal with...
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Yeah, but women were considered to be chattel. Why would God give equal rights to a woman in the 18th century?
Anyway, we still have the Speed of Light issue reference the First Vision (& subsequent visions) to deal with...
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At the time of the First Vision, Heavenly Mother and Father were still married. Soon afterwards (1833, to be exact), She became a free agent. Later, in the late 1840's, She inspired Charlotte Bronte with the words: "I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being with an independent will."
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
The Holy Sacrament.
The Holy Sacrament.