Newly legalized marijuana and WoW

[_Fence Sitter]

I'd like to see the Mormon church hold church members responsible for being obese. They're absolutely destroying and disrespecting their temples. They also should demand members engage in regular exercise. Gotta keep those temples in tip top shape!

Could you imagine members having to take a body fat measurement in order to gain access to the temple? Heh.

V/R
Dr. Cam

Ironic how sugar/fat addiction is moral while a hot caffeine addiction is not. i wonder how long it would take members to adapt to a doctrinal diet and exercise regime requirement to enter the temple?

Seriously, wouldn't a revelation by a prophet like "Thus saith the Lord, thou shalt not abuse thy temple through neglect and over eating", be something that the members need? Now that God seems less concerned with civil marriage laws maybe he should turn his attention to encouraging people to take better care of themselves.

[_Fence Sitter]

BC,

I disagree with consulting a Bishop about a medical question. Clearly there are cases where people seek to use marijuana medicinally without need, but that should be a decision a doctor makes, not a Bishop with out any training. Going to a Bishop to seek a second medical opinion is very bad advice. At best case, should a Bishop be asked, he should just suggest seeking a second medical opinion rather than offer up his own uninformed opinion.

For example, my father who was a Bishop would react differently to the following two statements. (I know this because I tried to get my mom to look into medicinal use to relieve the side effects of her chemotherapy treatments only to be told by my father it was against the WoW once he realized I was recommending marijuana.)

"Bishop my eye doctor has recommended using Tetrahydrocannabinol for treatment of my Glaucoma is that okay?"

or

"Bishop my eye doctor has recommended smoking marijuana for treatment of my Glaucoma, is that okay?"

While I consider Bishops on the whole to be well meaning, I have been around enough of them to know that the answer to a question like that depends more on who the Bishop is than the needs of the patient.

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[_bcspace]

I disagree with consulting a Bishop about a medical question

You would have to do it in the case of abortion. If you went ahead and did it anyway, the Bishop would still be asking about it. That is, if you're interesting in being considered worthy in the eyes of the Church for a TR or continued membership, which I assume, most of you aren't.

[_Fence Sitter]

I disagree with consulting a Bishop about a medical question

You would have to do it in the case of abortion. If you went ahead and did it anyway, the Bishop would still be asking about it. That is, if you're interesting in being considered worthy in the eyes of the Church for a TR or continued membership, which I assume, most of you aren't.

Worthiness issues are the purview of a Bishop, medical questions are not. If medical effectiveness and legality meets your standard of worthiness then it is not a decision to be left to a Bishop. What is the moral difference between a pain killer call Vicodin or one called Tetrahydrocannabinol?

I don't find the comparison between medical cannabis and abortion to hold much value. The only time the latter is allowable by the Church is when the life of the mother is in danger, the same standard does not apply for marijuana.

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[_Spanner]

Looks to me like all herbs are specifically allowed, according to the WoW.

You could make an argument that extracted or processed substances are not herbs as such. Like hash or opium.

But the precedent has been set with the cold drinks clarification. MJ is WoW ok.

[_moksha]

Do you believe medicinal use of marijuana is against the WoW?

Although I am not familiar with the WoW, I have had some past experiences that would suggest that taking a bite of a Burrito Supreme, immediately after the use of marijuana, can cauze someone to use the word....."Wow" in a sentence.

Peace,
Ceeboo

Back a few decades before the 80's, some followers of the R. Crumb enlightenment society spoke lovingly of a herb they called "wowie zowie" (could have been mistaken for the Hawaiian place name Maui). Perhaps some of this precious herb was offered up in burrito wrappers. Don't bogart that taquito.

[_ludwigm]

Do you believe medicinal use of marijuana is against the WoW?

Great minds! I was going to ask the same question.

I don't think that medicinal use would be against the WoW.

I would choose Tokaji Essencia instead.

It has long been claimed that Essencia has curative and medical
benefits, and indeed, in the 19th and early 20th century the principle
market for it in English speaking countries was as a kind of revitalizing
tonic, to be given to invalids and the seriously ill by the teaspoonful.
Many eminent doctors of the day attested to its remarkable powers, in
some cases claiming that a single teaspoon of the elixir had literally
restored patients on their deathbed to robust good health.

A picture (damn!) about it : [#img] http://tokaji.com/sitebuilder/images/med1-341x190.jpg[/img]

[_Infymus]

WoW is an abbreviation for Word of Wisdom, which is a revelation health code given to Joseph Smith.

Correction: Something that Joseph made up one day and contrary to Mormon propaganda - frequently broke it. Brigham Young made money selling liquor. The cult has been extremely vague about exactly what it really means for over a century. Only recently did they state that caffeine wasn't illegal - yet you still can't get caffeine (even coffee) in any Mormon owned restaurant - or at Brigham Young University.

You can read more information here:

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_wordofwisdom.html

I recall working downtown SLC next to the COB for years. They had to put up special "No Jaywalking" signs between the COB and Jan's market across the street because so many COB workers were breaking the law. Employees at the COB couldn't get caffeine on Cult campus - so they'd go across the street and fill up their mugs at Jans'. And of course, above Jan's market is the million + dollar high security condo-mansion where the Cult prophet lives (complete with personal elevators, tunnels to the COB and private parking place for the Prophet's armored car).