No one would risk everything for sex!

[_Bob Loblaw]

I can't count how many times I've been told by well-meaning Mormon defenders that you can't attribute Joseph Smith's many dalliances with non-Emma women to lust and sexual desire. One Mormon put it succinctly: "No one would risk so much just for a little on the side."

Yes, they would.

Bill Clinton
David Petraeus
David Vitter
Anthony Weiner
Silvio Berluscone
Chris Lee
John Edwards
Eliot Spitzer
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Mark Foley
Gary Hart
Jim Bakker
Jimmy Swaggart (does wanking in front of a hooker count?)

But, no, Joseph Smith never would have done such a thing.

[_lulu]

I've been struck by this too. It's as if Joseph Smith were a saintly eunuch angel who held his nose during sex because he found it so replusive.

I can't count how many times I've been told by well-meaning Mormon defenders that you can't attribute Joseph Smith's many dalliances with non-Emma women to lust and sexual desire. One Mormon put it succinctly: "No one would risk so much just for a little on the side."

Yes, they would.

Bill Clinton
David Petraeus
David Vitter
Anthony Weiner
Silvio Berluscone
Chris Lee
John Edwards
Eliot Spitzer
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Mark Foley
Gary Hart
Jim Bakker
Jimmy Swaggart (does wanking in front of a hooker count?)

But, no, Joseph Smith never would have done such a thing.

[_Fence Sitter]

Not to mention it was a lot easier to deny things back then.
If this was the 1800's many of those names would not even be on the list.

[_Stormy Waters]

I believe that Joseph Smith had an advantage over many of those listed. His prophetic position allowed him to redefine morality itself. He could convince others that what he was doing was perfectly moral. Well, he's got people convinced to this day. So he was able to get others to assist him in the cover up. He was able to convince fathers to give him access to their daughters. Joseph Smith simply had more relative power and leverage, and he used it.
I think Joseph probably could have gotten away with it if he hadn't pushed his luck marrying 30+ wives.

[_LDSToronto]

I can't count how many times I've been told by well-meaning Mormon defenders that you can't attribute Joseph Smith's many dalliances with non-Emma women to lust and sexual desire. One Mormon put it succinctly: "No one would risk so much just for a little on the side."

Yes, they would.

Bill Clinton
David Petraeus
David Vitter
Anthony Weiner
Silvio Berluscone
Chris Lee
John Edwards
Eliot Spitzer
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Mark Foley
Gary Hart
Jim Bakker
Jimmy Swaggart (does wanking in front of a hooker count?)

But, no, Joseph Smith never would have done such a thing.

They are men. Joseph is a god.

H.

[_Racer]

I can't count how many times I've been told by well-meaning Mormon defenders that you can't attribute Joseph Smith's many dalliances with non-Emma women to lust and sexual desire. One Mormon put it succinctly: "No one would risk so much just for a little on the side."

Yes, they would.

Bill Clinton
David Petraeus
David Vitter
Anthony Weiner
Silvio Berluscone
Chris Lee
John Edwards
Eliot Spitzer
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Mark Foley
Gary Hart
Jim Bakker
Jimmy Swaggart (does wanking in front of a hooker count?)

But, no, Joseph Smith never would have done such a thing.

Game, set, match...

[_bcspace]

dalliances

A rejectable premise because it has no basis.

Yes, they would.

Indeed. Some would. And one could also make a huge list of those who didn't. But to prove that Joseph Smith did, I think you'll have to check the children seeing as how no other real evidence is forthcoming.

[_Bob Loblaw]

A rejectable premise because it has no basis.

Only in your bizarre little world is sneaking off to have sex behind your wife's back not a "dalliance."

Indeed. Some would. And one could also make a huge list of those who didn't. But to prove that Joseph Smith did, I think you'll have to check the children seeing as how no other real evidence is forthcoming.

You keep repeating this as if it had any bearing on Joseph Smith's sexual relationships, which were numerous and are well-documented. Yours was a lame argument long ago, and repetition hasn't made it any less so.

I wonder what the word for "“F”" is in Trollese.

[_brade]

dalliances

A rejectable premise because it has no basis.

Yes, they would.

Indeed. Some would. And one could also make a huge list of those who didn't. But to prove that Joseph Smith did, I think you'll have to check the children seeing as how no other real evidence is forthcoming.

What do you understand of the testimonies in the Temple Lot case?

[_Chap]

... But to prove that Joseph Smith did, I think you'll have to check the children seeing as how no other real evidence is forthcoming.

What do you understand of the testimonies in the Temple Lot case?

Yes indeed.

Links to this affair have been posted here so often, but here we are again. In a property dispute with the Reorganized Latter-day Saints in the 1890s, the Utah LDS church filed numerous affidavits from faithful Mormon women swearing that they had sexual relations with Joseph Smith. See for instance:

http://www.i4m.com/think/history/joseph_smith_sex.htm

Why would those women lie on oath? Why would the church have wanted them to lie?

Let's hear from bcspace.