Jesus did not have a wife.

[_Gaia]

Hey newguy knock yourself out.
My doctrine is the strictest of Mormon Doctrine that Bruce had no clue about.

hint: I have over forty years of an unblemished track record for confounding LDS hypocrisy and making them shut their mouths.

But don't let that keep you from sallying forth.......................

GAIA:

Uh, first of all, my ID is "Gaia", which should give you a hint that i'm no "guy"

Secondly, with all due respect, your "doctrine" may be lots of things, but it is NOT LDS, and your inability or unwillingness to post references to support your ideas proves it.

Hint: forty years, huh? -- Am i supposed to be impressed? You're still wet behind the ears, and "confounding LDS hypocrisy" is hardly something about which to brag -- LDS hypocrisy is ubiquitous and doesn't take more than a Sunday-School knowledge of LDS history and doctrine. It does, however, take a fairly realistic understanding of the differences between personal opinion, speculation, and actual LDS teachings.

by the way - McConkie's book was not official doctrine, no matter its presumptuous title. I would recommend you begin with a much more authoritative and complete source, such as the Documentary History of the Church, or even the JD.


Blessings - Gaia

[_jo1952]

Hi Nightlion,

I doubt that God would have had His Son be born in an image inconsistent with other men, or not be able to be tempted as other men because He didn't have all of the "equipment" for that temptation to hold any real significance over Him. Also, the differences you describe would have been noticed by others - especially at Jesus' crucifixion. Father wants us to have faith that Jesus Christ is His Son; Father is not going to give us physical differences to point to as though His Son was some kind of freak of nature in order to draw attention to Him as being Divine. Indeed, we are made in His image. Why would God's Son come in the flesh in a different image than other men?

I believe that Melchizedek is the aspect about Father which manifests the Priesthood through which Father's Divine powers are accessed and exercised; that they are NOT one and the same with His Son. In fact, Jesus did have a physical mother; Mary. I do agree that there is much mystery to a trinity of God. Mankind can receive this unfolding as more and more parts of All Truth are revealed to us individually.

Blessings,

jo

Sorry I get tuff when speaking to things nobody but me understands. God is the only being who was not born of a mother. That is a sign for who he is. He does have a body but the signs or seed progeny do not show in him. Jesus Christ was a "CLONE" of the DNA of that body of the Father that sits upon the throne of his power. Eve's first ovulation in the Garden after her seed was replenished and multiplied unto her was designated as "Christ" whom the serpent had power to bruise his heel but Christ would have power to crush his (the serpent's) head.

I hope you can appreciate the bio/science God utilized to furnish a body for his son (one who IS born of a woman and therefore a lesser God as Jesus admitted). VIRGIN BIRTH folks. Have we understood this. Brigham was an idiot who knew nothing about it.
The power of the Holy Ghost which overshadowed Mary implanted a CLONED fertile ovum into the virgin womb of Mary. We are made in the image of God so we are compatible enough for this clone to take.

Christ was in the express image of the Father. Hence. If the FAther did not come by way of seed procreation and would not carry seed in himself to procreate accordingly........then.........Jesus' body would be exactly like that of the FAther without male nipples or scrotum or sex drive.

Okay he was not lured by sex. But he was God Almighty who craves worship of all creation. That is no doubt a bit greater of a temptation to be resisting and putting off for thirty three years than celibacy ever could be.

Questions?

Hello Nightlion,

It is difficult for Light to shine where hate and anger have such a great hold on someone. The adversary is good at using both our strengths and our weaknesses against us; impeding not only our ability to progress in our personal journey, but also impeding our desire to plant seeds to assist others in their journey.

Prayers and blessings,

jo

[_Tobin]

I don't know, but I find the concept that Jesus was born a eunuch as rather comical. Or am I misunderstanding Nightlion again?

[_Franktalk]

I think somebody paid my webmaster who also kept the servers in his house big bucks to let it fryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Recently I opened a new service agreement with a company but I sorely need a webmaster to help rebuild the colossal and rich
site I used to have.

Do you have the source code for your website? And what web authoring software was it written in? Normally the source code is not on the webserver just an image of it.

In much the same way we are but an image of what we really are. The form of this physical body and the memory loss allow us to develop a strong bond to this flesh. So much so that many feel this is all there is. But if you could just separate out your spirit for a moment you could actually experience our true nature. So for those in the spirit this existence is not what many have accepted. This world is for us to act out duty and learn right from wrong. We are to embrace many aspects of life as a teaching aid not to fall into a pit where the creation becomes our master. This is why it makes perfect sense to me for Jesus to be married. And with someone who complimented His experience on the earth. I have to ask myself that if Jesus will judge the living and the dead and marriage is a big part of the living, then He would have to have experienced marriage to judge from a position of personal knowledge.

[_Nightlion]

Hey newguy knock yourself out.
My doctrine is the strictest of Mormon Doctrine that Bruce had no clue about.

hint: I have over forty years of an unblemished track record for confounding LDS hypocrisy and making them shut their mouths.

But don't let that keep you from sallying forth.......................

GAIA:

Uh, first of all, my ID is "Gaia", which should give you a hint that I'm no "guy"

Secondly, with all due respect, your "doctrine" may be lots of things, but it is NOT LDS, and your inability or unwillingness to post references to support your ideas proves it.

Hint: forty years, huh? -- Am i supposed to be impressed? You're still wet behind the ears, and "confounding LDS hypocrisy" is hardly something about which to brag -- LDS hypocrisy is ubiquitous and doesn't take more than a Sunday-School knowledge of LDS history and doctrine. It does, however, take a fairly realistic understanding of the differences between personal opinion, speculation, and actual LDS teachings.

by the way - McConkie's book was not official doctrine, no matter its presumptuous title. I would recommend you begin with a much more authoritative and complete source, such as the Documentary History of the Church, or even the JD.


Blessings - Gaia

Nannying me wont work either. I am not sitting in your sandbox. And you have not the slightest clue.

If you got a point to make about anything gospel/restoration/zion make it and hold on.

You want to contend that the first ovulation of Eve was NOT taken for the birth of the Christ child?
I got scripture......what do you have..........?

You want to contend that God did NOT come without father without mother having neither beginning of days nor end of years. ETERNAL? I got scripture...........what do you have.......?

If these two facts exist then my assumption of Christ's neutral sexuality is justified.

Or we could entertain how He conceives his seed in sweating agony and blood and gathers his children under his wings as a mother hen and how he is set to nurture and heal us.......all female aspects of a duality of intelligence even a fulness greater than all.

With scriptures....naturally.

[_Nightlion]

I think somebody paid my webmaster who also kept the servers in his house big bucks to let it fryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Recently I opened a new service agreement with a company but I sorely need a webmaster to help rebuild the colossal and rich
site I used to have.

Do you have the source code for your website? And what web authoring software was it written in? Normally the source code is not on the webserver just an image of it.

In much the same way we are but an image of what we really are. The form of this physical body and the memory loss allow us to develop a strong bond to this flesh. So much so that many feel this is all there is. But if you could just separate out your spirit for a moment you could actually experience our true nature. So for those in the spirit this existence is not what many have accepted. This world is for us to act out duty and learn right from wrong. We are to embrace many aspects of life as a teaching aid not to fall into a pit where the creation becomes our master. This is why it makes perfect sense to me for Jesus to be married. And with someone who complimented His experience on the earth. I have to ask myself that if Jesus will judge the living and the dead and marriage is a big part of the living, then He would have to have experienced marriage to judge from a position of personal knowledge.

I cannot restore anything of my former websites. They are gone. I saved a couple of disks years ago if I could find them today. But I am content to simply build anew. Thanks.

You do realize the fallacy of your argument that you MUST experience anything to be able to judge? Right? What about Christ being the bridegroom to the gospel/church? We must make a real covenant with him as a bride to her groom to receive the power of the gospel. This diminutive posture incumbent upon all is why pride gets in the way. We are made one with God in something akin to marriage. God is both father and husband to our salvation. It is interesting that WE learn about bonds and covenants in our existence so as to be the least bit familiar with the prospect and how virtue and fidelity is requisite.

I had once transcended to the spirit world in conscious awareness of its reality for three days continually. I was made aware of the effulgent love of God that fills that dimension. I was given to choose life or death. Having chosen life the awareness I enjoyed was gone and my full strength was immediately restored unto me.

[_Gaia]

Actually we are many spirits that make up the whole. I do not know the exact mechanics and details. But Christ has seven Spirits.

GAIA:

References, please?

[_Nightlion]

I don't know, but I find the concept that Jesus was born a eunuch as rather comical. Or am I misunderstanding Nightlion again?

You cannot be a eunuch with nothing to lose in that regard. He was not castrated neither indeed could be. We are made male and female. God never was. That intelligence which supports both male and female exists without creation in all organized intelligence. This is intelligence in its fulness. Satan refused to be diminished by sexual assignment and would not advance to the second estate of seed body birth to exalted parents. He wanted to keep his fulness of intelligence so as to be enabled to somehow rival God.

Every stage of existence requires a sacrifice to be enabled to advance. Sexual assignment requires a resignation of either the female or male aspect of our intelligence. This sacrifice can be valiantly accepted or not so valiantly accepted hence gender confusion is rampant in our world. Those whose hearts are set to please God and willingly suffer all that is put upon them are gifted by his Spirit to rightly align more perfectly with their sexual assignment. Every grade of variance less than this is possible and obvious here.

The prophet Abinidi testified that Christ needed to suffer to be enabled to conceive his seed. The atonement is a spiritual sexuality and not carnal nor sensual as Jesus witnessed of himself in D&C 29.

God cannot be both carnally sexual and spiritually conceptual in begetting his sons and daughters. That would be contrary to nature. Even contrary to eternal nature. God is God and man is man. Mormon confusion is meet for their lack of faith in their repudiation of the gospel of Zion. So they were given strong delusion to believe a lie.

[_Nightlion]

Actually we are many spirits that make up the whole. I do not know the exact mechanics and details. But Christ has seven Spirits.

GAIA:

References, please?

Comes off like a prelude to seduction by evil spirits to me. If several spirits then several intelligences from the beginning when intelligence was organized into separate spheres of existence. Sounds like a mass of confusion.

[_Tobin]

I don't know, but I find the concept that Jesus was born a eunuch as rather comical. Or am I misunderstanding Nightlion again?

You cannot be a eunuch with nothing to lose in that regard. He was not castrated neither indeed could be. We are made male and female. God never was. That intelligence which supports both male and female exists without creation in all organized intelligence. This is intelligence in its fulness. Satan refused to be diminished by sexual assignment and would not advance to the second estate of seed body birth to exalted parents. He wanted to keep his fulness of intelligence so as to be enabled to somehow rival God.

Every stage of existence requires a sacrifice to be enabled to advance. Sexual assignment requires a resignation of either the female or male aspect of our intelligence. This sacrifice can be valiantly accepted or not so valiantly accepted hence gender confusion is rampant in our world. Those whose hearts are set to please God and willingly suffer all that is put upon them are gifted by his Spirit to rightly align more perfectly with their sexual assignment. Every grade of variance less than this is possible and obvious here.

The prophet Abinidi testified that Christ needed to suffer to be enabled to conceive his seed. The atonement is a spiritual sexuality and not carnal nor sensual as Jesus witnessed of himself in D&C 29.

God cannot be both carnally sexual and spiritually conceptual in begetting his sons and daughters. That would be contrary to nature. Even contrary to eternal nature. God is God and man is man. Mormon confusion is meet for their lack of faith in their repudiation of the gospel of Zion. So they were given strong delusion to believe a lie.

So, God is neither a eunuch nor a hermaphrodite? If God doesn't experience or have sexual desires, just how was Christ like us in any way? One of the prime motivations in our being is our sexual desire to reproduce. I really don't find Christ very relatable if he was not capable nor understood those motivations. I certainly don't see the point of becoming mortal and being tested and tried like we are without that capacity. It would seem that you are proposing that God is retarded and incapable of understanding those motivations at all.