Jesus did not have a wife.

[_LittleNipper]

[So, God is neither a eunuch nor a hermaphrodite? If God doesn't experience or have sexual desires, just how was Christ like us in any way? One of the prime motivations in our being is our sexual desire to reproduce. I really don't find Christ very relatable if he was not capable nor understood those motivations. I certainly don't see the point of becoming mortal and being tested and tried like we are without that capacity. It would seem that you are proposing that God is r******* and incapable of understanding those motivations at all.

Christ felt pain and suffering. There are plenty of people who die never experiencing sex. Yet God designed perfect sex for the purpose He intended humanity to apply it. Jesus never needed to have sex to understand what sex is or how it works. Jesus had nothing to prove to man. He came to shed His blood and give up His life for the sins of the world ---- and not to be some cartoon super hero with a roving eye.

[_Tobin]

So, God is neither a eunuch nor a hermaphrodite? If God doesn't experience or have sexual desires, just how was Christ like us in any way? One of the prime motivations in our being is our sexual desire to reproduce. I really don't find Christ very relatable if he was not capable nor understood those motivations. I certainly don't see the point of becoming mortal and being tested and tried like we are without that capacity. It would seem that you are proposing that God is r******* and incapable of understanding those motivations at all.

Christ felt pain and suffering. There are plenty of people who die never experiencing sex. Yet God designed perfect sex for the purpose He intended humanity to apply it. Jesus never needed to have sex to understand what sex is or how it works. Jesus had nothing to prove to man. He came to shed His blood and give up His life for the sins of the world ---- and not to be some cartoon super hero with a roving eye.

Using your exact same logic, God did not need to feel pain and suffering to understand them either. It is an all or nothing type of thing. Either Jesus was like us and subject to the same temptations and needs that we all have, or he was nothing like us and there was no point in God becoming human at all.

[_LittleNipper]

[Christ felt pain and suffering. There are plenty of people who die never experiencing sex. Yet God designed perfect sex for the purpose He intended humanity to apply it. Jesus never needed to have sex to understand what sex is or how it works. Jesus had nothing to prove to man. He came to shed His blood and give up His life for the sins of the world ---- and not to be some cartoon super hero with a roving eye.

Using your exact same logic, God did not need to feel pain and suffering to understand them either. It is an all or nothing type of thing. Either Jesus was like us and subject to the same temptations and needs that we all have, or he was nothing like us and there was no point in God becoming human at all.

The Lord Jesus Christ HAD to die on the cross in order to save. God had to become a man in order to cancel out what Adam did in taking the forbidden fruit. Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God. You don't believe in the Flood. Where does all or nothing apply to you? I study to accept the entire Bible. I do not eliminate portions or add works to that which God for 2000 years has made the focus of His sealed Story.

[_Tobin]

The Lord Jesus Christ HAD to die on the cross in order to save. God had to become a man in order to cancel out what Adam did in taking the forbidden fruit. Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God. You don't believe in the Flood. Where does all or nothing apply to you? I study to accept the entire Bible. I do not eliminate portions or add works to that which God for 2000 years has made the focus of His sealed Story.

No he did not. God is omnipotent. He didn't have to do a thing. He could have just made it so. Or are you saying God isn't omnipotent?

[_Quasimodo]

Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God.

I think that's "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord, thy God." If thou wisheth to sound Biblical by using King James English, thou shouldst read up a little.

I study to accept the entire Bible. I do not eliminate portions or add works to that which God for 2000 years has made the focus of His sealed Story.

Why not? The Bible is just a collection of different stories by different authors, compiled by a group of politically oriented bureaucrats. No where in the Bible does it claim to be the revealed word of God.

I would (wouldst) think you would be more concerned with what may be the truth of God rather than mindlessly accepting things you have been taught by those no wiser than yourself.

[_Franktalk]

References, please?

Here is one. But be aware that many have viewed these verses and have written all kinds of explanations to force the verses to say something they do not say. I would also not be surprised if we have seven spirits as well but not developed.

Revelation 5:6

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Here is an article talking about the Mind of Christ.

http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/281/

I think it is way more complex than that but it is a start.

Next is some discussion about the spirits but he gets all tangled up with the Trinity and the rapture. Ignoring that and other obvious errors the discussion is helpful.

http://www.newfoundationspubl.org/7spirits.htm

Here is another with a better handle on overreach.

http://beginningandend.com/spirits-god/

Anyway some say it is all talk about seven angels. I don't think so. I will discuss more if you wish. Just let me know.

[_Franktalk]

Using your exact same logic, God did not need to feel pain and suffering to understand them either. It is an all or nothing type of thing. Either Jesus was like us and subject to the same temptations and needs that we all have, or he was nothing like us and there was no point in God becoming human at all.

I happen to agree. In my belief system Christ was like us in the sense that we can become like Him as He told us to do. If we are nothing like Christ why would He tell us to become as He is? The mind numbing twisted logic that some embrace makes my mind jump track. Yet they tell us we are the ones who advance odd made up doctrines.

We are told to marry and we are told to be like Christ. I wonder if there may be a connection? But what I hear from many is a whole list of exceptions and rules just like the Pharisees laid upon the Jews. I wonder if the Pharisees are a type for this bunch?

[_Gaia]

References, please?

Here is one. But be aware that many have viewed these verses and have written all kinds of explanations to force the verses to say something they do not say. I would also not be surprised if we have seven spirits as well but not developed.
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Anyway some say it is all talk about seven angels. I don't think so. I will discuss more if you wish. Just let me know.

GAIA:

Ah, OK - Thanks for taking the time and trouble to provide those; I very much appreciate it, though it may take me some time to read, ponder and consider them.

Blessings to you - Gaia

[_Franktalk]

GAIA:

Ah, OK - Thanks for taking the time and trouble to provide those; I very much appreciate it, though it may take me some time to read, ponder and consider them.

Blessings to you - Gaia

For me I just consider the spirit of each of us more complex than we can imagine. It is like a seed that needs to grow so you can see exactly what it truly is. So for me the details are too fuzzy to really spend much time on. I just accept that we have much to learn in general about our self. There is so much to experience and learn in this form before moving on.

[_Nightlion]

So, God is neither a eunuch nor a hermaphrodite? If God doesn't experience or have sexual desires, just how was Christ like us in any way? One of the prime motivations in our being is our sexual desire to reproduce. I really don't find Christ very relatable if he was not capable nor understood those motivations. I certainly don't see the point of becoming mortal and being tested and tried like we are without that capacity. It would seem that you are proposing that God is r******* and incapable of understanding those motivations at all.

Sexual reproduction is to make replicas of US. God is seeking to make us LIKE him. But not by way of a carnal sexuality. What do you think drives Christ to make such a great sacrifice and suffer? It is his instinct as it were to bring us up to become ONE with him.

I say Christ suffered incredibly more than we can imagine just living day to day as the light and life of the World, or universe and being treated like dirt. That sort of thing would tend to grate upon a Supreme Being. So suffering anything at all give us empathy, no?

I hope thinking along these lines might have you withdraw your supposition stated poorly above.