For former Mormons who became atheists

[_ludwigm]

1st. statement of LN:

God didn't have sex with Mary.

2nd. statement of LN:

The Holy Spirit was involved in causing Mary's egg to become implanted with Christ.

3rd. statement of LN:

God has always existed as TRIUNE ---- 3 individuals beings forming together one GOD.

One of the 3 individuals is The Holy Spirit (3 st). He (she? it?) forms one god, together with the other two. (3 st)
That 1/3 god was involved in [too graphic word self-censored]ing Mary. (2 st)

So, 1/3 of god did have sex with Mary. (against 1 st)

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Again, you are looking at this from a "Mormon" perspective. God didn't have sex with Mary. The Holy Spirit was involved in causing Mary's egg to become implanted with Christ. God created the universe, He created life, And He did it all from NOTHING. Sin was the result of Lucifer wanting to be God. God has always existed as TRIUNE ---- 3 individuals beings forming together one GOD.

No. I'm looking at it from an Atheist perspective. Additionally, I haven't said your god had sex with Mary. I've said your god impregnated Mary.

The rest of your comment is nonsensical, and has nothing to do with the context of the conversation. I'm starting to think your thinking patterns are a bit off... :/

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_subgenius]

Sheesh! It's like I have to do all the work around here!

just when you perpetuate inept opinions....which are so deftly displayed in the rest of your post.
You see, (ha ha) you pretend to "know" or even to "have read" the scriptures, but of them little is apparent to you....which is readily apprent by your rather sophomoric analysis of Genesis.
The most obvious affirmation of this is when you assume that the narrator of Genesis is so deliberate in detailing a step-by-step story that this light before a source must be some sort of "mistake" that unravels the scriptures from the "beginning"...yet all it does is accent your rather cursory understanding of the scriptures...ergo...no real stretch that you are an atheist...which i am beginning to presume is being used synonymous with "don't know much about this stuff".
Yet we also see that though you are willing to subscribe to a big bang (from nothing comes everything) but having light being present from nothing is just too much of a stretch....got it!

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. <-Click!

agreed...there is now light...yet most scholars (obviously not your posts) recognize this light as being Christ....or as we see in 1John1:5 "God is light" - which confirms that God was the only source of light in the beginning. However i think this is interesting with 1Tim6:16 - where we see that God dwells in light....which is a conversation about the Law and God - not to mention about how "original creative actions" are distinguished...but that is meat and your posts are struggling with milk.
So, let us be more basic than that for your sake.
We know that even on earth light exists without the sun...lightning for example.
- oh, yes while the moon does not create light...it does it bear light by reflection.

who am i kidding, you are likely better off served by just twiddling around the "chicken and egg" question around until a shiny object catches your eye.


the rest of your posts seems to be just masturbatory humor, so no response necessary as it was meant only for your own gratification.
"DR"? indeed.....hmmph

(ps...still waiting for that "work" you were talking about before)

[_subgenius]

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Dr. Cam

this is how dumb most atheists are...Epicurus was not an atheist...he actually believed in the gods and he believed the gods just did not concern themselves with man....at best he was a Hedonist, in reality he was just anti-Jewish.

DR? ....indeed

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

this is how dumb most atheists are...Epicurus was not an atheist...he actually believed in the gods and he believed the gods just did not concern themselves with man....at best he was a Hedonist, in reality he was just anti-Jewish.

DR? ....indeed

Who's making any statements about Epicurus's faith? He certainly didn't share your philosophy:

He taught that pleasure and pain are the measures of what is good and evil; death is the end of both body and soul and should therefore not be feared; the gods do not reward or punish humans; the universe is infinite and eternal; and events in the world are ultimately based on the motions and interactions of atoms moving in empty space.

Additionally, the quoted image is to use HIS philosophy when describing YOUR god. Your god isn't worth worshiping for the very foundational claims we've made here. He's an evil maker, an evil collaborator, and an evil doer. By extension, you worship evil and I cannot abide that.

Epicurus is a key figure in the development of science and the scientific method because of his insistence that nothing should be believed, except that which was tested through direct observation and logical deduction.

We can keep doing this, but I have the feeling you'd most likely be on the short end of the reality stick. :/

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. <-Click!

agreed...there is now light...yet most scholars (obviously not your posts) recognize this light as being Christ....or as we see in 1John1:5 "God is light" - which confirms that God was the only source of light in the beginning.

Hello Mr. Sub-Genius,

So you and your "scholoar" friends simply *poof* attribute whatever you want to Christ?

Huh.

That's a heck of a scholarly system you have there. ;)

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Dr. Cam

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Well, this explains Sub-Genius and Little Nipper:

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/evol ... index.html

For example, human DNA sequences are over 95% identical to chimpanzee sequences and around 50% identical to banana sequences.

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Dr. Cam

[_subgenius]

Who's making any statements about Epicurus's faith? He certainly didn't share your philosophy:

that explains the bold type word "ATHEISTS" at the bottom of your posted meme....awkward

Additionally, the quoted image is to use HIS philosophy when describing YOUR god. Your god isn't worth worshiping for the very foundational claims we've made here. He's an evil maker, an evil collaborator, and an evil doer. By extension, you worship evil and I cannot abide that.

but your position proposes that evil does not even exist - that it can not exist.
But good to see that atheists support the hedonistic anti-Jewish philosophy of Epicurus.

We can keep doing this, but I have the feeling you'd most likely be on the short end of the reality stick. :/

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Dr. Cam

tell me (and Einstein) again about science and religion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello Mr. Sub-Genius,

When I talk about your god, who collaborates with Evil and murders children, I'm clearly doing that to relate a point to you. I don't believe in your god; that still doesn't negate the logical hoops you have to jump through in order to defend your god-ideology.

Reference the meme above, I'll concede your point, and agree that whoever put that together misidentified Epicurus as an Atheist. I simply think the philosophical point was well done. I can admit an error, however.

Now, how about you try one on for size? Did your god create Evil, and conspire with Satan to murder Job's children?

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Dr. Cam

[_LittleNipper]

Hello Mr. Sub-Genius,

When I talk about your god, who collaborates with Evil and murders children, I'm clearly doing that to relate a point to you. I don't believe in your god, that still doesn't negate the logical hoops you have to jump through in order to defend your god-ideology.

Reference the meme above, I'll concede you point, and agree that whoever put that together misidentified Epicurus as an Atheist. I simply the point was well done. I can admit an error.

How you you try one on for size? Did your god create Evil, and conspire with Satan to murder Job's children?

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Dr. Cam

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe it is okay to kill bugs and why? People die because of sin. If there was no sin people would not die. Satan takes life, presently that is his right. Satan is still the angel who was originally placed in charge over all that is material. The earth is presently his throne. In God's perfect timing Satan will be deposed; however, not before everyone who God knows will accept His plan of salvation is born to receive eternal life... The problem is you and others are looking at everything from a "me" point of view. God looks at the broad picture, and has all that will be saved to be concerned about. As for Job and his family, they plight became a book of the Bible so that others might realize that "things" could always be much worse. No matter how bad, things could be much worse. I'd rather die with Job's children with a roof falling on my head than to die a slow rotting death of lung cancer over a period of years. So you may wish to as God to forgive you your sins and accept Christ as your personal Savior, right now!