What kind of art class?

[_schreech]

It can, indeed.

Maybe its just me, but I feel like with enough time, I could actually become a stellar chef - cooking makes sense to me. Writing feels more like something you are either good at or you are not...I am not. I have tried my hand at writing a few times and its incredibly frustrating as the things in my head just don't appear on the paper...

[_zeezrom]

It can, indeed.

Maybe its just me, but I feel like with enough time, I could actually become a stellar chef - cooking makes sense to me. Writing feels more like something you are either good at or you are not...I am not. I have tried my hand at writing a few times and its incredibly frustrating as the things in my head just don't appear on the paper...

Learning to cook well requires knowing what tastes good yourself, practice, feedback from your taste testers, willingness to be bold.

I think just making a dish over and over does not make a good cook.

Case in point: The Cake Boss cakes aren't getting any better.

[_Quasimodo]

Basic techniques. Nothing will help you more than a good background in how to mix paints, what brushes to use and how to choose the best medium that fits your style.

I want to learn how to mix water colors and the techniques for the purpose of...

drawing fantastic and fanciful clothing and wings and big bright rays of light bouncing off the walls of hell.

I used to do all my color illustrations in watercolor (dry brush... sort of). There is a wide verity of techniques in watercolor. Your chose of paper has many options, as well and has a very big effect on the final image.

I have a good friend that uses acrylics exclusively. His work is exceptional. Personally, I prefer oils. I just love the smell of linseed oil.

[_Quasimodo]

Learning to cook well requires knowing what tastes good yourself, practice, feedback from your taste testers, willingness to be bold.

I think just making a dish over and over does not make a good cook.

Case in point: The Cake Boss cakes aren't getting any better.

My own personal belief is that art is art. Cooking is an art in the same way that painting, sculpture, acting, music and writing are arts.

If you can paint, you can cook.

[_Morley]

It can, indeed.

Maybe its just me, but I feel like with enough time, I could actually become a stellar chef - cooking makes sense to me. Writing feels more like something you are either good at or you are not...I am not. I have tried my hand at writing a few times and its incredibly frustrating as the things in my head just don't appear on the paper...

I had the same frustration learning to bake bread. To overcome this, I baked twice a week for months and threw away the product each time. I did this until I finally felt like I had mastered the basic zen of the thing. But to do so, I had to embrace, and even love, my repeated failure.

I remain convinced that seventy-five to eighty percent of any art can be learned. (edit: Ha! As I re-read this, I realize that perhaps this is just a reflection of the hope that I, myself, can learn.)

[_Quasimodo]

I had the same frustration learning to bake bread. To overcome this, I baked twice a week for months and threw away the product each time. I did this until I finally felt like I had mastered the basic zen of the thing. But to do so, I had to embrace, and even love, my repeated failure.

I remain convinced that seventy-five to eighty percent of any art can be learned. (edit: Ha! As I re-read this, I realize that perhaps this is just a reflection of the hope that I, myself, can learn.)

Hi Morley! We haven't chatted in a while. I'm sure that's my fault.

I agree that anyone can learn the basics of any medium of art. I think that creating something that others would see as real art requires something special that can't be taught.

From what I know of you, I'm quite sure that you can create real art in whatever medium you choose.

[_zeezrom]

I remain convinced that seventy-five to eighty percent of any art can be learned.

I agree.

Simply doing engineering problems over and over does NOT make a good engineer. You need passion.

My bishop once told me we should not have passion but rather have balance. “F” him!

[_schreech]

Learning to cook well requires knowing what tastes good yourself, practice, feedback from your taste testers, willingness to be bold.

I think just making a dish over and over does not make a good cook.

Case in point: The Cake Boss cakes aren't getting any better.

Oh, I agree. I feel like i have an aptitude for cooking though and I when I do make a mistake, I rarely do it again. I like doing it and I never find myself frustrated or "blocked". In fact, with every success, I am constantly thinking of ways to improve the dishes - its a great creative outlet for me...I just lack "technique". If I can figure out how to retire from career #1 in the next couple years (fingers crossed :)) I hope to move into cooking full time for the rest of my life.

I envy great writers. I literally get jealous with I read a well written book as that skill seems so far out of my reach that I may as well aspire to professional basketball. I feel like great writers are born with that gift and it can't be learned...

[_schreech]

I had the same frustration learning to bake bread. To overcome this, I baked twice a week for months and threw away the product each time. I did this until I finally felt like I had mastered the basic zen of the thing. But to do so, I had to embrace, and even love, my repeated failure.

I remain convinced that seventy-five to eighty percent of any art can be learned. (edit: Ha! As I re-read this, I realize that perhaps this is just a reflection of the hope that I, myself, can learn.)

Awesome that you took the time to perfect baking bread...that is a tough one. I actually am just the opposite of you, I remain convinced that 75%+ of any art is pure, god/zuess/tom cruise- given talent. The remaining 25% or so is perfecting the techniques. My ability to write is lacking and I see failure with every attempt...I don't feel like anything I have ever cooked is a failure. I can see how dishes I have made can be improved but I have always enjoyed everything that I have created. Writing, pure frustration...

[_zeezrom]

I actually am just the opposite of you, I remain convinced that 75%+ of any art is pure, god/zuess/tom cruise- given talent. The remaining 25% or so is perfecting the techniques. My ability to write is lacking and I see failure with every attempt...I don't feel like anything I have ever cooked is a failure. I can see how dishes I have made can be improved but I have always enjoyed everything that I have created. Writing, pure frustration...

I failed math in jr high and consistently "didn't get it" all through high school. I was convinced I was not a math person.

Then I decided to stop being afraid of math when I entered BYU. I worked pretty hard and somehow, I got an A in calculus. It was my first A in anything related to math, ever.