
The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
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The New Progressive Citizen of the Future

Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
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- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
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Re: The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
I always get a kick out of the Republican claim that they're the ones who are taking personal responsibility. I know enough Republicans and enough about their personal lives to know that's simply not true. In reality it is the Republicans who are constantly blaming others for their own problems. Especially down here in the South, where the Mexican, the Negro, the Indian, etc are all to blame for our woes. It is all just a big cover for their racist agenda.
Even while they're getting their butts kicked during elections, they're still making up excuses to blame others instead of taking responsibility for their own failures. Oh, it must be because Americans want free cell phones and free birth control. That's why Obama won! Yes, that must be it!
To say you'd have to be an intellectual peon to buy into such tripe, would be putting it charitably.
Republicans are some of the most irresponsible people I know, and also the most selfish. They don't give a flying damn about anyone but themselves. Just look at the way current leadership is willing to fall on its sword just to save the rich from spending a little more, as they did under Reagan. They'd gladly let the middle-class's taxes go up if that's what it takes to make their stand, proving once and for all who they really care about.
Even while they're getting their butts kicked during elections, they're still making up excuses to blame others instead of taking responsibility for their own failures. Oh, it must be because Americans want free cell phones and free birth control. That's why Obama won! Yes, that must be it!
To say you'd have to be an intellectual peon to buy into such tripe, would be putting it charitably.
Republicans are some of the most irresponsible people I know, and also the most selfish. They don't give a flying damn about anyone but themselves. Just look at the way current leadership is willing to fall on its sword just to save the rich from spending a little more, as they did under Reagan. They'd gladly let the middle-class's taxes go up if that's what it takes to make their stand, proving once and for all who they really care about.
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Re: The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
Kevin Graham wrote:I always get a kick out of the Republican claim that they're the ones who are taking personal responsibility.
Who ever said anything about Republicans? Are then anywhere mentioned in this political art?I know enough Republicans and enough about their personal lives to know that's simply not true. In reality it is the Republicans who are constantly blaming others for their own problems. Especially down here in the South, where the Mexican, the Negro, the Indian, etc are all to blame for our woes. It is all just a big cover for their racist agenda.
The nice thing about being on the Left (aside from its convenient moral relativity and its general lack of intellectual integrity) is that if you can just lie long enough, loudly enough, and with enough apparent conviction, you will probably attract a certain kind of personality to your cause. See the poster art above.
Republicans are some of the most irresponsible people I know, and also the most selfish. They don't give a flying damn about anyone but themselves.
This will not stand up to known empirical evidence, and indeed, if you substitute "liberal" for "Republican" here, you have a clear window into what known empirical data tell us the truth really is. But no matter.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
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Re: The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
This is funny. Mitt Romney back in 2006 gave a presentation arguing that his individual mandate to purchase health insurance was his "taking personal responsibility" principle.
http://www.republicansforobama.org/node/10240
You hear a lot of talk in Republican circles about ‘Personal Responsibility.’ It sounds great, doesn’t it? Americans are a rugged bunch. We like to do things ourselves. We grow, cultivate and butcher our own food. We make the forks and knives needed to enjoy our bountiful feasts. We build and furnish our own homes. The neighborhood doc treats all our illnesses. We bank our own money. We only invest with people we know and trust. Wait a minute. That’s not us? I guess I watched too many episodes of “Little House On the Prairie” as a little kid.
Truth be told, Americans are not the rugged individualists we think we are. Our lives are inextricably tied to pretty much everyone in the industrialized world. Our food comes from as far away as Chile and as far away from nature as a lab rat. By the time it reaches our plates, it’s been touched by dozens of hands and a number of multinational corporations. We hope and pray that our SE Asian manufactured forks and knives don’t contain lead or mercury. Our homes are built by large home builders, who oversold, causing neighbors to foreclose and the value of our own homes to go down. Our mortgages are held by…who the hell knows. For those of us who have insurance, we are lucky if the insurance company will approve of the treatment needed for our doctor to treat us. For those of us that don’t, we’re lucky if we don’t go bankrupt from an illness. Or worse yet, we’re lucky if we don’t die. We bank with faceless corporations who charge us to use our own money while raking in record profits. We invest in 401ks and money market funds, mixing good investments with bad. If we have jobs, it’s likely our employers are struggling because there aren’t enough customers. If we do get laid off through no fault of our own, jobs are a rare commodity. Starbucks won’t hire someone who was making $60k a year. Some companies refuse to hire the unemployed…period.
I want personal responsibility. I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to be a job creator. Despite continuing education and a 70+ hour a week work ethic, my dream could fail, simply because I need health insurance. I take personal responsibility for my health. I eat a healthy diet. I exercise. I don’t take pharmaceuticals (sorry big pharma). I pay my bills. I don’t go into debt (sorry Wall Street).
So, okay, it is time for me to take personal responsibility…starting here:
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I didn’t work hard enough to keep corporate money out of our elections.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I did not work hard enough to maintain a Democratic majority in 2010.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I did not stand up to Wall Street sooner.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever purchased any non-American made products.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever purchased any non-union made products.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever shopped or invested with a multinational corporation.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever banked with a non-local bank.
I take personal responsibility for any of my own inaction due to cynicism or apathy.
I take personal responsibility for not educating myself about politicians and issues.
I take personal responsibility for not educating myself in the electoral tactics of the corporations I honor with my business.
My actions won’t fix the economy. They won’t even fix my own personal economy. Only giving our democracy back to the people can do that. My actions, singular, won’t fix anything, but the actions of the thousands who are occupying Wall Street might. And if you can’t Occupy Wall Street, or even your home town. Please, take some personal responsibility. Spend your time and money wisely.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/17 ... nsibility/
http://www.republicansforobama.org/node/10240
You hear a lot of talk in Republican circles about ‘Personal Responsibility.’ It sounds great, doesn’t it? Americans are a rugged bunch. We like to do things ourselves. We grow, cultivate and butcher our own food. We make the forks and knives needed to enjoy our bountiful feasts. We build and furnish our own homes. The neighborhood doc treats all our illnesses. We bank our own money. We only invest with people we know and trust. Wait a minute. That’s not us? I guess I watched too many episodes of “Little House On the Prairie” as a little kid.
Truth be told, Americans are not the rugged individualists we think we are. Our lives are inextricably tied to pretty much everyone in the industrialized world. Our food comes from as far away as Chile and as far away from nature as a lab rat. By the time it reaches our plates, it’s been touched by dozens of hands and a number of multinational corporations. We hope and pray that our SE Asian manufactured forks and knives don’t contain lead or mercury. Our homes are built by large home builders, who oversold, causing neighbors to foreclose and the value of our own homes to go down. Our mortgages are held by…who the hell knows. For those of us who have insurance, we are lucky if the insurance company will approve of the treatment needed for our doctor to treat us. For those of us that don’t, we’re lucky if we don’t go bankrupt from an illness. Or worse yet, we’re lucky if we don’t die. We bank with faceless corporations who charge us to use our own money while raking in record profits. We invest in 401ks and money market funds, mixing good investments with bad. If we have jobs, it’s likely our employers are struggling because there aren’t enough customers. If we do get laid off through no fault of our own, jobs are a rare commodity. Starbucks won’t hire someone who was making $60k a year. Some companies refuse to hire the unemployed…period.
I want personal responsibility. I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to be a job creator. Despite continuing education and a 70+ hour a week work ethic, my dream could fail, simply because I need health insurance. I take personal responsibility for my health. I eat a healthy diet. I exercise. I don’t take pharmaceuticals (sorry big pharma). I pay my bills. I don’t go into debt (sorry Wall Street).
So, okay, it is time for me to take personal responsibility…starting here:
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I didn’t work hard enough to keep corporate money out of our elections.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I did not work hard enough to maintain a Democratic majority in 2010.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I did not stand up to Wall Street sooner.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever purchased any non-American made products.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever purchased any non-union made products.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever shopped or invested with a multinational corporation.
I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever banked with a non-local bank.
I take personal responsibility for any of my own inaction due to cynicism or apathy.
I take personal responsibility for not educating myself about politicians and issues.
I take personal responsibility for not educating myself in the electoral tactics of the corporations I honor with my business.
My actions won’t fix the economy. They won’t even fix my own personal economy. Only giving our democracy back to the people can do that. My actions, singular, won’t fix anything, but the actions of the thousands who are occupying Wall Street might. And if you can’t Occupy Wall Street, or even your home town. Please, take some personal responsibility. Spend your time and money wisely.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/17 ... nsibility/
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Re: The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
Kevin Graham wrote:This is funny. Mitt Romney back in 2006 gave a presentation arguing that his individual mandate to purchase health insurance was his "taking personal responsibility" principle.
http://www.republicansforobama.org/node/10240
Yeah, and he never lived it down and it helped scuttle his presidential ambitions. But Romney is not a conservative, save on the margins, so your point is lost in irrelevance, as has long been the case with you.So, okay, it is time for me to take personal responsibility…starting here:
I'll take note of each discreet example of politically correct breast-beating and moral grandstanding point by point...I take personal responsibility for the fact that I didn’t work hard enough to keep corporate money out of our elections.
So you're very suspicious of the first amendment, at least for those not sharing your beliefs. I thought so (no, I knew so). Next...I take personal responsibility for the fact that I did not work hard enough to maintain a Democratic majority in 2010.
Fortunately, Morlocks can only consume so much Eloi flesh in one sitting. You just needed to digest you last meal for a while and come back refreshed for the next battle.I take personal responsibility for the fact that I did not stand up to Wall Street sooner.
I also take personal responsibility not to get my knowledge of economics and political economy from Oliver Stone movies, preferring serious reading and study.I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have nver purchased any non-American made products.
I have purchased many of them, as I understand the law of comparative advantage, make my purchases upon considerations of relative value vs. cost, and the crippling economic effects of mercantilism.I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever purchased any non-union made products.
Given a choice, I will purchase non-union products over those made by those who take by force and political protectionism more than they are actually worth in an open, free, competitive market any day of the year.I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever shopped or invested with a multinational corporation.
Nothing wrong with those. They provide countless jobs, from entry level through upper management to those who need them and create wealth. I'm not sure I see what's wrong with that.I take personal responsibility for the fact that I have ever banked with a non-local bank.
Who cares?I take personal responsibility for any of my own inaction due to cynicism or apathy.
Just stare at that red beret and plastic AK-47 in your bedroom closet and dream about the wonderful "better world" you and the other Gadianton's will one day bring to us and our children. The Shape of Things to Come, and all that.I take personal responsibility for not educating myself about politicians and issues.
I and many others have been telling you that you're not educated for years. l'm glad you've now "seen the light" here.I take personal responsibility for not educating myself in the electoral tactics of the corporations I honor with my business.
And the labor unions (and most especially, the public secter unions)?Only giving our democracy back to the people can do that.
So you want us to all live in a democracy?My actions, singular, won’t fix anything, but the actions of the thousands who are occupying Wall Street might.
A tiny, astroturfed, highly organized, bought-and-paid-for gaggle of drones, losers, drug addicts, professional and semi-professional political thugs, useful stooges, Marxists, neo-Marxists, neo-communists, anarchists, anti-Semites, addled sixties burn-outs, and certifiable air heads? Not likely.
The origins and ideology of the Occupy movement are well known and well analyzed. Not only does this potpourri of the radical anti-American, anti-capitalist Left not represent any but a tiny fringe of the American population, it has shown itself (and its progenitors in the anti-war movement after 2003 and the anti-globalization movement prior to that), by many examples of is own behavior, to be so beyond intellectual and moral legitimacy as to defy belief.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/view ... sp?id=1533
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
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Re: The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
As the footman said to the valet, "Old J.D. can take out one of those street urchins from 20 feet away with a single dime".
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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Re: The New Progressive Citizen of the Future
Kevin Graham wrote: Even while they're getting their butts kicked during elections, they're still making up excuses to blame others instead of taking responsibility for their own failures. Oh, it must be because Americans want free cell phones and free birth control. That's why Obama won! Yes, that must be it!
To say you'd have to be an intellectual peon to buy into such tripe, would be putting it charitably.
Yes, the far right are deluded nutjobs.
In a recent poll by Public Policy Polling, only 35% of all republican polled believed that Obama election victory was legitimate. 49% believed that Acorn, which does not exist, stole the election for Obama.
Cite: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... -well.html