Liahona Irreantum Rabbanah deseret

[_Themis]

Simply, Book of Mormon geography is irrelevant speculation. That is doctrine. (Pres. Anthony Ivins, CR April 1921).

So?

[_son of Ishmael]

You have got to be kidding right?

No , here's just a few changes in Mormonism. Maybe you would like to post some changes in Evangelic Christianity, you have a lot more years to find them

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The Bible is full of holes just like the Book of Mormon is. They are both a load of crap. Outside of the Bible, there is no proof that the Jews were ever slaves in Egypt. There is no proof that Jesus ever lived, there is no proof that Caesar Augustus ordered a census that caused Joseph to take Mary to Bethlehem. The story of women caught in adultery (you know the whole “he who is without sin cast the first stone…”) story was added hundreds of years later. Do yourself a favor and quit worry about the Book of freaking Mormon and spend some time looking at the Holy freaking Bible with the same critical eye. Check out “ Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. That would be a good start.

[_Robert F Smith]

It would be nice to see you deal with what he says and not attack the man. It is a poor apologetic, and childish. He probably had more reasons then most to maintain belief, and he did at least publicly.

I suspect he assumptions may fall more in line with what the Book of Mormon says and the church has taught then your assumptions.

It doesn't take much to realize Joseph was making it up, but when you look at all the evidence this was a trait of the man.

Well then we are both well on our way to Hell.

Perhaps you'd like to suggest a balanced and fair appraisal of the archeological issues, or any of the scientific issues which might be brought to bear on the questions of the Book of Mormon or Book of Abraham. Are you able to make a sincere effort to evaluate such questions, Themis? Or are you only here to do name-calliing and to invoke chaos?

[_Robert F Smith]

You have got to be kidding right?

The Bible is full of holes just like the Book of Mormon is. They are both a load of crap. Outside of the Bible, there is no proof that the Jews were ever slaves in Egypt. There is no proof that Jesus ever lived, there is no proof that Caesar Augustus ordered a census that caused Joseph to take Mary to Bethlehem. The story of women caught in adultery (you know the whole “he who is without sin cast the first stone…”) story was added hundreds of years later. Do yourself a favor and quit worry about the Book of freaking Mormon and spend some time looking at the Holy freaking Bible with the same critical eye. Check out “ Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. That would be a good start.

Thank you, son of Ishmael. I thought he was kidding too. Satire maybe, but I was wrong.

BrianH Mittens doesn't understand just how fraught with danger his reckless claims are, and how quickly they lead to instability in his own belief system.
One major characteristic of apostates of any religion is their willingness to apply double-standards -- special favors for their own set of beliefs, but special polemic condemnation for everyone else. The hatred and intolerance of the apostate signals his own demise. He ends by lying on behalf of God. As though God needs liars to defend Him.

Thus, the false standards applied to the Book of Mormon will come back like a boomerang to the hater who applies them.

[_Mittens]

Could you address these changes and show the same pattern in the Bible.

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[_son of Ishmael]

Could you address these changes and show the same pattern in the Bible.

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I have already stated that the Book of Mormon is full of changes and full of crap. If I show to you how the Bible has been changed over the years will you admit the same thing about it?

[_Mittens]

Please do, If it's God Word it won't need to be changed

Isa 40:
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Apparently Mormonism, " Book of Mormon, D&C, and Pearl of Great Price aren't words from God

[Guest]

Uuuug....

Mittens, did the Bible just spring forth from the forehead of Jesus in its current form like Athena from the forehead of Zeus?

Have the books and the contents of the Bible changed over time?

You know the Latin vulgate, which was the most common version of the Bible for centuries contains books not found in the bibles common among protestants/evangelists - those who used to employ the kjv, or the new translations, right?

The answer is yes. So the question becomes, which version is the inerrant word of god?

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[Guest]

Maybe you would like to post some changes in Evangelic Christianity, you have a lot more years to find them

lol, ever heard of the Nicene creed? The Apocrypha? The NEW TESTAMENT?

[_Themis]

Perhaps you'd like to suggest a balanced and fair appraisal of the archeological issues, or any of the scientific issues which might be brought to bear on the questions of the Book of Mormon or Book of Abraham. Are you able to make a sincere effort to evaluate such questions, Themis?

I am willing to look at all the evidence available. I brought up one with the facsimiles.

Or are you only here to do name-calliing and to invoke chaos?

Perhaps you could point to where I call you names. I seem to remember getting on you for doing that instead of presenting his position and attempting to show why you think it is wrong.