People under age 25? People with any form of mental illness from anxiety to depression to bipolar disorder? Should there be a mandatory mental health screening (done under lie detector testing) in order to be approved for a gun license? People that are men? Or perhaps anyone with any type of disability should be barred from keeping a firearm.
I'm a fan of tighter restrictions on guns, but I think we should think long and hard before we start to selectively discriminate against certain populations.
Just me, I can see your point about the difficulty of knowing who to restrict. It is hard to tell who is really dangerous until they up and do something really awful.
Perhaps I should be willing to forgo semiautomatic weapons along with everybody else. Set an example for the emotionally less stable.
People under age 25? People with any form of mental illness from anxiety to depression to bipolar disorder? Should there be a mandatory mental health screening (done under lie detector testing) in order to be approved for a gun license? People that are men? Or perhaps anyone with any type of disability should be barred from keeping a firearm.
I'm a fan of tighter restrictions on guns, but I think we should think long and hard before we start to selectively discriminate against certain populations.
Just me, I can see your point about the difficulty of knowing who to restrict. It is hard to tell who is really dangerous until they up and do something really awful.
Perhaps I should be willing to forgo semiautomatic weapons along with everybody else. Set an example for the emotionally less stable.
That would be a good start.
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why is the U.S. so utterly f****d when it comes to school shootings or generally speaking gun violence in comparison to other westernized nations? What have we done, become, or have always been to make us so screwed? I am baffled, terribly heartbroken, and embarrassed.
huckelberry wrote: I was trying to think about how people and societies learn to control and deal productively with the emotions which lead to violence.
Yeah, I don't think we really do. It seems to me that so many adults don't know how that they are unable to teach their children how. It is certainly an area where we could do a lot of work.
Education is needed. Support and access to medical assistance is needed for people with mental health illnesses. Not to mention that the stigma surrounding those illnesses needs to be tossed out.
Perhaps I should be willing to forgo semiautomatic weapons along with everybody else. Set an example for the emotionally less stable.
I certainly don't see the point of semiautomatic weapons other than to murder mass quantities of people.
The difference between the school tragedy in China with a knife and the school tragedy in CT using guns is that those in China were injured while those in CT were murdered. So those who say stricter gun laws wouldn't make a difference in violence of this nature are ignoring the difference in death tolls.
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lostindc wrote:why is the U.S. so utterly f*cked when it comes to school shootings or generally speaking gun violence in comparison to other westernized nations? What have we done, become, or have always been to make us so screwed? I am baffled, terribly heartbroken, and embarrassed.
The media has been feeding violence to america for decades. Hollywood in particular has made killing and death a moneymaking machine. Compounded by the drug industry that has brainwashed a population that the only way to kill pain and sadness is by taking a happy pill when it is perfectly normal to feel pain and sadness as human beings.
Then we have the video industry feeding violence...and a 24 hour media feeding violence to the public and then we have the internet discussion forums where people bash each other's religion or mock a person's religion and anything else that people are engaged in...well...can we guess why psychosis is on the increase?
Not to mention hollywood stars who are in favor of gun control and yet, make millions from playing gun hero action movie parts.
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huckelberry wrote: Just me, I can see your point about the difficulty of knowing who to restrict. It is hard to tell who is really dangerous until they up and do something really awful.
People who are on antidepressants should be excluded from gaining a gun permit. My bet is that this killer was on some sort of prescribed drug and suffered from depression and was probably seeing a shrink.
Not to mention a problematic son who hated his mom and the kids that she was teaching because he perceived that they got his mother's love and he didn't.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
lostindc wrote:why is the U.S. so utterly f*cked when it comes to school shootings or generally speaking gun violence in comparison to other westernized nations? What have we done, become, or have always been to make us so screwed? I am baffled, terribly heartbroken, and embarrassed.
The media has been feeding violence to america for decades. Hollywood in particular has made killing and death a moneymaking machine. Compounded by the drug industry that has brainwashed a population that the only way to kill pain and sadness is by taking a happy pill when it is perfectly normal to feel pain and sadness as human beings.
Then we have the video industry feeding violence...and a 24 hour media feeding violence to the public and then we have the internet discussion forums where people bash each other's religion or mock a person's religion and anything else that people are engaged in...well...can we guess why psychosis is on the increase?
Not to mention hollywood stars who are in favor of gun control and yet, make millions from playing gun hero action movie parts.
I agree with the glorification of violence issues and the hypocrisy of actors.
I do KNOW we need to get really strict on guns and change our culture. America has become an embarrassment to modernized nations.
Gun permit laws, and gun restriction laws will never restrict gun crime. The horror of this act does make my heart ache also, that is because I consider myself somewhat a normal human, and I hate violence and conflict at almost every level. One of the biggest problems concerning these types of senseless crimes is our human reaction that makes most say, we need to CHANGE something so that this will never happen again. And then believe we can change something to make this never to happen again... and the only solutions we seem to come up with is to take freedoms away from all the people that don't or would never do anything even remotely close to this stupid so that we MIGHT, MAYBE, not stop, but REDUCE the odds this might happen. This is not a person that says he wants to kill a bunch of people and then kill himself, it is the reverse, he was so desensitized against humanity, and to a certain level so angry at something that he decides this is how he is going to kill himself, and he is going out in a blaze, and with a statement. This kid wanted people to know him, know how pissed he was, and wanted a whole bunch to hurt worse than he ever did, but he was hurting somehow. Don't ever even come close to trying to take away my freedom kindled right to defend myself from people this pissed and this stupid. Remember the right to defend ourselves spawns from our desire for freedom from any type of oppression, and oppression doesn't only come from an out of control government, or misaligned police force, it also comes from criminally minded and mentally distorted others that we need to be able to match wits, and technology with. If someone comes at me or my family or neighbors in order to oppress me and I can not defend myself with as big or bigger technology, then they win and I am still oppressed.