More Underclass/Hip-Hop Barbarism on Parade

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Now that you have someone's attention you get the opportunity to explain why you don't like black people and their culture.



Ahhh...I see. So then, it would be fair to say that, for you, "gangsta," "thug," Hip-Hop, or otherwise inner city welfare underclass culture is black culture.

To be black is to be part of, referenced to, or immersed in, inner city underclass street culture. To be black is to wear certain kinds of clothes, talk a certain way, express oneself with specific mannerisms, body language, and affect (maximum security prison culture/gang culture slang, inflection, hand movements/hand signs, hair styles, attitudes etc.) and to hold very specific political, social, and cultural views.

I do not now have, nor have I ever had, any problem with black people qua black people, and never will (nor anyone else grounded in biological attributes).
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Droopy wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Now that you have someone's attention you get the opportunity to explain why you don't like black people and their culture.



Ahhh...I see. So then, it would be fair to say that, for you, "gangsta," "thug," Hip-Hop, or otherwise inner city welfare underclass culture is black culture.

To be black is to be part of, referenced to, or immersed in, inner city underclass street culture. To be black is to wear certain kinds of clothes, talk a certain way, express oneself with specific mannerisms, body language, and affect (maximum security prison culture/gang culture slang, inflection, hand movements/hand signs, hair styles, attitudes etc.) and to hold very specific political, social, and cultural views.

I do not now have, nor have I ever had, any problem with black people qua black people, and never will (nor anyone else grounded in biological attributes).


I have no idea if that's the point behind you posting what you've posted. You accused me of pretending to not know the point of your post. So I had to guess since you've shown racist tendencies in the past. And from what I saw above, you haven't done a fair job of dissuading me from that notion.

To whit, the reason why posted what you posted was to point out your distaste for Black Culture? Perhaps you and ESPN's Rob Parker share the same point of view:

Rob Parker of ESPN bloviates on First Take that Griffin might be a "cornball brother" and "not one of us."

"My question, which is just a straight honest question: is he a brother, or is he a cornball brother?" Parker asked to much confusion among the show's other participants. "Well, [that] he's black, he kind of does his thing, but he's not really down with the cause, he's not one of us.

"I want to find about him," Parker said. "I don't know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiancee. Then there was all this talk about he's a Republican, which there's no information at all. I'm just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue. Because we did find out with Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods was like, 'I've got black skin, but don't call me black.' So people wondered about Tiger Woods."


Here's one for ya, Droops...

Blame it all on my roots,
I showed up in boots,
And ruined your black tie affair.

The last one to know,
The last one to show,
I was the last one you tought you'd see there.

And I saw a surprise,
And the fear in his eyes,
When I took his glass of champange,

I toasted you,
Said honey we may be through,
But you'll never hear me complain,

'Cause I got friends in low places...

V/R
Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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So I had to guess since you've shown racist tendencies in the past.


CFR (for good or ill, this required a mandatory response or a retraction over at the FAIR message board. That's not the case here, but I'm still going to hold you to cough up evidence for your slander or eat your original claim.

And from what I saw above, you haven't done a fair job of dissuading me from that notion.


What did I write that is indicative of racism?

To whit, the reason why posted what you posted was to point out your distaste for Black Culture?


Please describe "black culture" for me, Cam, and to whom it applies.
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Droopy wrote:
So I had to guess since you've shown racist tendencies in the past.


CFR (for good or ill, this required a mandatory response or a retraction over at the FAIR message board. That's not the case here, but I'm still going to hold you to cough up evidence for your slander or eat your original claim.

And from what I saw above, you haven't done a fair job of dissuading me from that notion.


What did I write that is indicative of racism?

To whit, the reason why posted what you posted was to point out your distaste for Black Culture?


Please describe "black culture" for me, Cam, and to whom it applies.


Did the links you posted have anything to do with White, Asian, Middle Eastern, Latino, or Mormon culture? And again, what was the POINT of you posting those links since I clearly have no idea what it was. I'd prefer not to have to venture a guess again.

Very Respectfully,

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Droopy wrote:CFR (for good or ill, this required a mandatory response or a retraction over at the FAIR message board. That's not the case here, but I'm still going to hold you to cough up evidence for your slander or eat your original claim.

What did I write that is indicative of racism?


Droopy wrote:This guy "The Game" is a classic pop-thug culture Morlock who understands quite well that his skin color and trendy underclass attitudinizing exempt him thoroughly from the kind of criticism he would receive were he of another racial background, or ever of virtually any other minority background.

As you can see below, this semi-literate bore (and his fans, who clearly share similar psychological attributes) is not anywhere near firing on all cylinders, but his sense of entitlement and unhinged narcissism is not the least restrained by the clear lack of oil in the crankcase.


We can keep doing this if your highly sophisticated intellect can continue to deny that your post was a shot at the many non-Mormon, non-Asian, non-Middle Easterner, non-Latino, non-White Off-Topic board participants that frequently post on this forum.

V/R
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Uh, Droopy, one of the things your notorious for in this little neck of the woods is being semi-literate. Your tendency to overuse SAT words, often incorrectly, in embarrassingly purple prose is a running joke. You dismiss professors who teach classes in literature trying to help you come off less ignorant both because you are so full of pride and because you are too semi-literate to recognize just how semi-literate you are.

Glassy houses, pointy rocks, and all that.
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Odd that you don't see Droopy ever complain about country-western music culture even though it has highly similar, dark themes running throughout a notable chunk of it. Its misogyny, outlawism, celebration of drug use, and glamorization of impoverished cultural attitudes is just as apparent. One wonders why hip-hop vexes him so, but country music listeners never seems to draw any ire. What could be the difference? Hmmmm.

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EAllusion wrote:Odd that you don't see Droopy ever complain about country-western music culture even though it has highly similar, dark themes running throughout a notable chunk of it. Its misogyny, outlawism, celebration of drug use, and glamorization of impoverished cultural attitudes is just as apparent. One wonders why hip-hop vexes him so, but country music listeners never seems to draw any ire. What could be the difference? Hmmmm.


The exact reason why I posted the Garth Brooks lyrics. Also, it was a sort of double entendre that Droopy would understand.

Droopy will note the first example is a rapper:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teetotalers

V/R
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:quote="Droopy"

CFR

What did I write that is indicative of racism?

This guy "The Game" is a classic pop-thug culture Morlock who understands quite well that his skin color and trendy underclass attitudinizing exempt him thoroughly from the kind of criticism he would receive were he of another racial background, or ever of virtually any other minority background.

As you can see below, this semi-literate bore (and his fans, who clearly share similar psychological attributes) is not anywhere near firing on all cylinders, but his sense of entitlement and unhinged narcissism is not the least restrained by the clear lack of oil in the crankcase.


We can keep doing this if your highly sophisticated intellect can continue to deny that your post was a shot at the many non-Mormon, non-Asian, non-Middle Easterner, non-Latino, non-White Off-Topic board participants that frequently post on this forum.


Well look...I didn't for one second think you could make good on your preposterous smear. I would ask you to point out to me what, in what I've written here, is racist or racially bigoted in nature, beyond being disparaging and critical (but, or course, I don't have to ask, because, for you, any time a white person criticizes a black person, for any reason, the only possible basis for any such criticism must be racial, right Cam?), but the pointlessness of attempting rational, philosophical discourse with someone not attuned to such accoutrements of civilization is too obvious to belabor.

Now, perhaps you could answer my questions as posed to you above. What is "black culture" and to whom does it apply?
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Droopy wrote:Well look...I didn't for one second think you could make good on your preposterous smear. I would ask you to point out to me what, in what I've written here, is racist or racially bigoted in nature, beyond being disparaging and critical (but, or course, I don't have to ask, because, for you, any time a white person criticizes a black person, for any reason, the only possible basis for any such criticism must be racial, right Cam?),

This guy "The Game" is a classic pop-thug culture Morlock who understands quite well that his skin color and trendy underclass attitudinizing exempt him thoroughly from the kind of criticism he would receive were he of another racial background, or ever of virtually any other minority background.


As you can see below, this semi-literate bore (and his fans, who clearly share similar psychological attributes) is not anywhere near firing on all cylinders, but his sense of entitlement and unhinged narcissism is not the least restrained by the clear lack of oil in the crankcase.

but the pointlessness of attempting rational, philosophical discourse with someone not attuned to such accoutrements of civilization is too obvious to belabor.

Now, perhaps you could answer my questions as posed to you above. What is "black culture" and to whom does it apply?


Well, again Droopy, what was the POINT of your posting your OP on an off-topic forum on a Mormon discussion board? Since you clearly weren't addressing the White thug culture what culture, exactly, were you addressing, and since you brought up race and skin color, as quoted above, you tell me what it was about your post that wasn't addressing non-Blacks since The Game is, himself, Black. How is this not an example of your soft racism?

To answer your question (see how this works?) I define Black Culture thusly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people

Read all the citations.

V/R
Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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