Animal sacrifice in New Testament era LDS teach

[_Mittens]

It will be necessary here to make a few observations on the doctrine set forth in the above quotation [Malachi 3:3], and it is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the Great Sacrifice {i.e., the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus} was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in future: but those who assert this are certainly not acquainted with the duties, privileges and authority of the priesthood, or with the Prophets.

The offering of sacrifice has ever been connected and forms a part of the duties of the Priesthood. It began with the Priesthood, and will be continued until after the coming of Christ, from generation to generation. We frequently have mention made of the offering of sacrifice by the servants of the Most High in ancient days, prior to the law of Moses; which ordinances will be continued when the Priesthood is restored with all its authority, power and blessings. . . .

These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the powers of the Melchisedic Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how can the restitution of all things spoken of by the holy Prophets be brought to pass? It is not to be understood that the law of Moses will be established again with all its rites and variety of ceremonies; this has never been spoken of by the Prophets; but those things which existed prior to Moses' day, namely, sacrifice, will be continued.

It may be asked by some, what necessity for sacrifice, since the Great Sacrifice was offered? In answer to which, if repentance, baptism, and faith existed prior to the days of Christ, what necessity for them since that time? The Priesthood has descended in a regular line from father to son, through their succeeding generations. (Joseph Smith, History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7 Vols. 4:211-12)

3 Words of Oliver B. Huntington: I heard the Prophet reply to the question: "Will there ever be any more offering of sheep and heifers and bullocks upon altars, as used to be required of Israel?"

He said: "Yes, there will; for there were never any rites, ordinances of laws in the priesthood of any gospel dispensation upon this earth but what will have to be finished and perfected in this last dispensation of time—the dispensation of all dispensations." (Hyrum L. Andrus and Helen Mae Andrus, comps., They Knew the Prophet, p. 62)

1844. Letter to the brethren scattered from Zion, Kirtland, 22 January 1834.
1845. Article on priesthood read at general conference, Nauvoo, 5 October 1840.
1846. Recollection of Oliver B. Huntington, published in the Young Woman's Journal, March 1893.

RESTORATION OF BLOOD SACRIFICES. We are living in the dispensation of the fulness of times into which all things are to be gathered, and all things are to be restored since the beginning. Even this earth is to be restored to the condition which prevailed before Adam's transgression. 44 Now in the nature of things, the law of sacrifice will have to be restored, or all things which were decreed by the Lord would not be restored. It will be necessary, therefore, for the sons of Levi, who offered the blood sacrifices anciently in Israel, to offer such a sacrifice again to round out and complete this ordinance in this dispensation. Sacrifice by the shedding of blood was instituted in the days of Adam and of necessity will have to be restored. 45

The sacrifice of animals will be done to complete the restoration when the temple spoken of is built; at the beginning of the millennium, or in the restoration, blood sacrifices will be performed long enough to complete the fulness of the restoration in this dispensation. Afterwards sacrifice will be of some other character.

Doctrine of Salvation vol 3 page 94 Joseph Field Smith


It is interesting to note that even though the Mormon church teaches animal sacrifice after the death of Christ, they cannot
find any support for this doctrine in the Book of Mormon. In fact, the Book of Mormon condemns it in the strongest terms. In 3 Nephi 9:19 Jesus was supposed to have said: "And ye shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood; yea, your sacrifices and your burnt offerings shall be done away, for I will accept none of your sacrifices and your burnt offerings."

Again as normal Book of Mormon contridicts Mormon theology

[_Quasimodo]

I've always found this interesting:

Exodus 22:29-30 “Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.

“You must give me the firstborn of your sons. Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

[_Mittens]

Didn't Joseph Fielding Smith read Hebrews 7?

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
Hebrews 7


A Song about this sacrifice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUU7naYi ... ELV34ZNQ2A

[_ludwigm]

I've always found this interesting:

Exodus 22:29-30 “Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.

“You must give me the firstborn of your sons. Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

as far as I know (this doesn't mean I am dead on...) the firstborn sons were brought up in the temple, they weren't burned. The under-servant staff wasn't of Aaron's sons.

You know, from the half shekel - the temple tax - they couldn't run to toilet cleaning...

Exodus 30:15. The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when they give an offering unto the LORD, to make an atonement for your souls.

[_ldsfaqs]

Man, it just amazes me the depth anti-mormons go to LIE about the Church, even so-called "Christian" ones.

Mormonism does not teach and never has taught that we will be doing "animal sacrifices" again, when we all know that Christ's Blood being shed has fulfilled that ordinance.

Yes, as a fulfillment of prophecy and God's will there is a belief that the ordinance of animal sacrifice will be restored briefly, or be done once at some point prior to the Millennium, but that will have it's own purposes and reasons, not at all delineating Christ's sacrifice.

FYI Mittens..... ALL LDS theology comes from the scriptures.
FYI also Mittens.... Not all scripture contains all theology and all revealed truth. So, the Book of Mormon not having something doesn't do anything to Mormonism.

[_Mittens]

Kinda Strange since I have Mormons defending animal sacrifice in the temple :question:

When GOD said all things shall be restored He means all things and not what Christians shall say. There is no need to find this stuff in the Book of Mormon because in this case the Bible is sufficient.

The Lord by the prophet Isaiah had this to say....concerning our day. In the day that the Lord will gather the outcast of Israel and others to them.

Isaiah 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Feasts shall also be restored...and for all the people of the earth...they will at least have to attend the feast of the tabernacle...or they shall have plagues of Egypt whether it is a family a people or a nation. It does not matter if the people say we do not believe...they will if they survive the plagues of Egypt that GOD will send them. For it is written every man shall bow the knee...whether he is a muslims and do not believe in Jesus ...he will have to comply or die by the plagues of Egypt.


Zechariah 14:15 - And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ***, and of all the beasts that shall
be in these tents, as this plague.
Zechariah 14:16 - And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zechariah 14:17 - And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zechariah 14:18 - And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zechariah 14:19 - This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

In this post I have shown a few things that shall be restored along with the Temple...All things shall be restored...but no one here or the LDS say that animal Sacrifices shall be for the whole of the Millennium. When those things are restored...It may be for a very short period of times or just once. Maybe what J. Smith did it was sufficient to fulfill the restitution of all things concerning animal sacrifices.

The thing is, GOD is in Charge and the prophecy given to us..concerning the Restitution of all things means all things not just what Christians shall say to GOD need restoring. It may be in some things....doing it only once is enough to fulfill the condition of GOD.

bert10

bert10 is devote Mormon here defending it. You yourself defends the teaching while denying it. Very strange

[_Chap]

Kinda Strange since I have Mormons defending animal sacrifice in the temple :question:

When GOD said all things shall be restored He means all things and not what Christians shall say. ...

Well, surely it's obvious that the Lord meant this to be read as saying "all things culturally acceptable to 21st century Americans shall be restored"? So by implication animal sacrifice must be ruled out.

[_Albion]

These quotes are something I have never come across before and can only take them as read since there is no context or anything else with them. Mittens posts them without much comment. The only "conclusion" Mittens appears to draw is that they are not contained within the Book of Mormon. The only lie as I see it would be if Mittens made them up and they are not actual statements.

[_subgenius]

According to Ben Franklin's autobiography his father almost tithed him to the church...Ben being the 17th/18th child of that father....instead Ben spent some time in his youth as an indentured servant of sorts to one of his older brothers...a contract that could only later be broken by their father

that being said

what is, as usual, Mittens posting about?

[_just me]

Didn't Joseph Fielding Smith read Hebrews 7?

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
Hebrews 7


A Song about this sacrifice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUU7naYi ... ELV34ZNQ2A

Do Christians read Deuteronomy?

Deut. 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his down sin.