This pretty much tells one all one needs to know about anyone who would place such a picture besides the likes of Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Hussein with the idea of drawing parallels.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Doctor Steuss wrote:I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword...
Pretty poor exegesis, Dr.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Doctor Steuss wrote:This pretty much tells one all one needs to know about anyone who would place such a picture besides the likes of Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Hussein with the idea of drawing parallels.
Silly right winger. He was obviously far too clever for you.
Incidentally, he placed a picture of one imagined scenario directly beneath a picture of another imagined scenario -- that of our president in a Soviet military uniform. Very consistent, since the two images are equally authentic.
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
Doctor Steuss wrote:I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword...
Pretty poor exegesis, Dr.
That all your sentences were that short.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
beastie wrote:An executive action is not an executive order. Most of these proposed actions will have to go through Congress. Hardly tyranny.
Here's what doesn't have to go through Congress.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system. 2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system. 3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. 4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. 5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun. 6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers. 7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign. 8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission). 9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. 10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement. 11. Nominate an ATF director. 12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations. 13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime. 14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence. 15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies. 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes. 17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities. 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers. 19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education. 20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover. 21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges. 22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations. 23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan
Now, I know there is very little chance bcspace will actually engage in these points. He does fly-by farts, we all know that. But just in case he's got a more reasonable twin out there, I ask this:
which of these points that does not require congressional action constitutes tyranny?
Bumping this up so bcspace can point out which of these points constitutes tyranny. Surely he has a good answer. Surely someone as thoughtful and intelligent as bcspace wouldn't engage in unjustified, inflammatory hyperbole.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
Such tyranny. Granted, this tyranny has essentially been in the form of agreeing to do most of what the NRA has recently advocated, but... but... TYRANT!! COMMIE GUN GRABBER!!!
In his calm, collected presentation on December 21, the NRA's Wayne LaPierre said that schools need to have increased security, with "armed police officers in every school."
Last week, President Obama proposed to: 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
How dare he flout the constitution so blatantly?
LaPierre also said that we must act to keep the mentally ill (in his words, "genuine monsters" who "walk among us every day") from getting guns. This can only happen if we have a thorough background check system without loopholes.
The president said he would: 1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
Outrageous! This type of gun confiscation must not be allowed to stand!!
Granted, the president did not address Wayne's other concerns — by calling for laws that ban violent movies and video games, or prohibit media outlets from ever mentioning the names of mass killers — but hey, we can't expect 100% agreement.
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
Armed police officers in every school sounds like a step to further increases in government tyranny to me. Maybe it will have the paradoxical effect of causing more opposition to it as right now the increasing police state approach to school environments and school-to-prison pipe-lining is predominately an inner city problem. The spread of "resource officers" is one of the drivers of it. Import that issue to the 'burbs and enough people might start caring to stop it.
Of course, this is a policy strongly favored by mainstream non-libertarian conservative groups. So BCSpace can't possibly be complaining about that. He's for whatever they are for at the moment. BCSpace has always been at war with Eastasia.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, you have Obama again behaving exactly like a moderate Republican with a strong authoritarian bent supporting policies that are an anathema to what progressives supposedly believe in. But, since he is the pied piper for left-wing partisans, opposition to further deteriorating the civil rights environment for children in a way that disproportionately damages racial minorities gets barely a whimper of opposition from Democrats.
EAllusion wrote:Armed police officers in every school sounds like a step to further increases in government tyranny to me.
Are you lumping all levels of government together? I would think that any officers would be local. I doubt that counts as tyranny, given the fact that local government already completely runs the schools.
The local (suburban Utah) high school that my kids attended has had one or more city police officers roaming its halls for at least the last decade.
As for me, I don't believe an armed guard in a school would make much difference, especially in a case like Sandy Hook. They would most likely just be added to the casualty list. They will probably always be outgunned and on the wrong side of the element of surprise.
"The DNA of fictional populations appears to be the most susceptible to extinction." - Simon Southerton
krose wrote:Are you lumping all levels of government together? I would think that any officers would be local. I doubt that counts as tyranny, given the fact that local government already completely runs the schools.
The presence of resource officers in public schools has had the effect of an increasingly police-state like environment in schools where youth are at greater risk of being treated like potential perps without adult civil rights. They are disproportionately funneled into the criminal justice system for behavior that should be a school disciplinary issue. That's what I'm calling "government tyranny," especially when you consider attendance at such schools is quasi-mandated for the children. Some schools and officers are better than others, but the net effect is a negative one that brings an oppressive government thumb where it does not need to be.