David not in Hell like LDS teach

[_SteelHead]

Is the first resurrection over then, bc?

As my PB said I would come forth in the morning of the first resurrection. Hard to do if it has ended.

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Is the first resurrection over then, bc?

It is not over. But the implication is that those who lived before Christ already had their chance.

As my PB said I would come forth in the morning of the first resurrection. Hard to do if it has ended.

Indeed. Since there has already been a resurrection as per Matthew 27 above there are two ways to think of it.

1) The subsequent verses (after Christ's ascension) on the resurrection don't apply to the Matthew 27 case.
2) The morning of the first resurrection isn't over. In that case, David still had not yet ascended as per Acts 2:34.

In either case, where is he? Hell is the only possible answer and that could certainly be in the overall (Greek) underworld sense or the place of punishment in the underworld sense. For a limited Bible only Christian such as Mittens, there is no leeway. There might be more leeway for an LDS person except D&C 132 tells us that David missed out on his exaltation and that constrains us as well in addition to confirming that David missed (and will continue to miss) the first resurrection.

[_Mittens]

acts 2:

25 “King David quoted Jesus as saying:
‘I know the Lord is always with me. He is helping me. God’s mighty power supports me.
26 ’No wonder my heart is filled with joy and my tongue shouts his praises! For I know all will be well with me in death—
27 ’You will not leave my soul in hell or let the body of your Holy Son decay.
28 ’You will give me back my life and give me wonderful joy in your presence.’
29 “Dear brothers, think! David wasn’t referring to himself when he spoke these words I have quoted, for he died and was buried, and his tomb is still here among us. 30 But he was a prophet, and knew God had promised with an unbreakable oath that one of David’s own descendants would be the Messiah and£ sit on David’s throne. 31 David was looking far into the future and predicting the Messiah’s resurrection, and saying that the Messiah’s soul would not be left in hell and his body would not decay. 32 He was speaking of Jesus, and we all are witnesses that Jesus rose from the dead.
33 “And now he sits on the throne of highest honor in heaven, next to God. And just as promised, the Father gave him the authority to send the Holy Spirit—with the results you are seeing and hearing today.
34 “No, David was not speaking of himself in these words of his I have quoted, for he never ascended into the skies. Moreover, he further stated, ‘God spoke to my Lord, the Messiah, and said to him, Sit here in honor beside me 35until I bring your enemies into complete subjection.’

Acts 13:34 “For God had promised to bring him back to life again, no more to die. This is stated in the Scripture that says, ‘I will do for you the wonderful thing I promised David.’ 35 In another Psalm he explained more fully, saying, ‘God will not let his Holy One decay.’ 36 This was not a reference to David, for after David had served his generation according to the will of God, he died and was buried, and his body decayed. 37 No, it was a reference to another—someone God brought back to life, whose body was not touched at all by the ravages of death.

In Mormon Doctrine we have the answer that it wasn't David in Psa 16:8 under Corruption
Corruption is also used to signify the decay and change that will take place after death. Thus David recorded the Lord's promise that he would not suffer his Holy One to see corruption (Ps. 16:10), a promise amply fulfilled in Christ as both Peter (Acts 2:27) and Paul (Acts 13:30-37) testified.

3. The term is further used with reference to the wicked, depraved, and dissolute acts of those who are steeped in iniquity. "He that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting," Paul says (Gal. 6:8); and it is by thus sowing to the Spirit that the saints have "escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust." (2 Pet. 1:4.)


Acts 13:
34“For God had promised to bring him back to life again, no more to die. This is stated in the Scripture that says, ‘I will do for you the wonderful thing I promised David.’ 35In another Psalm he explained more fully, saying, ‘God will not let his Holy One decay.’ 36This was not a reference to David, for after David had served his generation according to the will of God, he died and was buried, and his body decayed. 37No, it was a reference to another£—someone God brought back to life, whose body was not touched at all by the ravages of death.

• Acts 13:22
22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

• 2 Timothy 2:8
8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

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For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:34

Game, set, match.

[_Tobin]

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:34

Game, set, match.

ROFL

[_consiglieri]

How can you be so sure David is not in hell, Mittens?

Were you unable to find him?

[_Mittens]

I would say by reading Psalms that David is in Heaven

Acts 13:22
22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

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21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.

22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

It speaks only of his sojourn in mortality; a replacement for Saul. David fulfilled God's will, but like Saul, also couldn't endure to the end. After taking multiple wives under God's authorization, David committed adultery anyway and murdered to cover it and as the New Testament says, a murderer does not have eternal life (1 John 3:15). David is in hell. Game over.

[_Albion]

Well, of course, no sinner has eternal life which carried to an ultimate conclusion means that no one has eternal life because there is no one without sin..."...no, not one." But God's grace through Christ's atonement provides a way for all, through faith, to receive the benefits of that grace to salvation. Christ atoned for all sin...even for the sin of murder. Like all saved sinners, David will be in place to cast his "crowns" at the feet of his savior in heaven.

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But God's grace through Christ's atonement provides a way for all, through faith, to receive the benefits of that grace to salvation.

Indeed. But there are different degrees of salvation. The New Testament singles out murder for being precluded from eternal life, not salvation. Modern revelation tells us David has lost his exaltation (eternal life) because of the case of Uriah which was a case of murder.