How to Deal with Joseph Smith's Youngest Wives

[_Bazooka]

As I recall, God declared that plural marriage was sanctioned specifically for the "raising up of seed" which, if I'm not mistaken, happened in the 1800's pretty much how it happens nowadays. If Joseph wasn't playing "hide the sausage" with his plural wives then he was being disobedient to God.

30 Abraham received promises concerning his seed, and of the fruit of his loins—from whose loins ye are, namely, my servant Joseph—which were to continue so long as they were in the world; and as touching Abraham and his seed, out of the world they should continue; both in the world and out of the world should they continue as innumerable as the stars; or, if ye were to count the sand upon the seashore ye could not number them.

31 This promise is yours also, because ye are of Abraham, and the promise was made unto Abraham; and by this law is the continuation of the works of my Father, wherein he glorifieth himself.

32 Go ye, therefore, and do the works of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.

33 But if ye enter not into my law ye cannot receive the promise of my Father, which he made unto Abraham.

Take your pick:
Having sex = he was a pervert praying on young women
Not having sex = he was sticking up his middle finger to Elohim

[_son of Ishmael]

Yep, and there is no evidence that Joseph Smith wiped his butt either so I guess that means he never did it.

Agreed. No evidence for is not evidence against.

But we all know that Joseph Smith pooped like everyone else. And we have a pretty good idea that Joseph Smith did not have a co-habitation/marriage-type of relationship with most of the women he was sealed to. So in this case, the evidence is heavily against any basis for this criticism against Joseph Smith.

Brigham Young and others clearly had sex with their polygamous wives and no one seems to dispute this or think it odd. Why is everyone so convinced the Joseph Smith did not have sex with his polygamous wives? Is it because if he had sex with the older ones then he probably had sex with the younger ones and the ones married to other men?

Would that be why he denied his involvement in polygamy all the way to his death?

[_bcspace]

The solution is to know that there is little or no evidence for many of the women to whom Joseph Smith was sealed for an actual marriage relationship.

Amazing that you excuse mass bigamy and sexual predation on children so easily.
Having young girls in ones home and then after a few years of grooming, 'marrying' them is classic for a sexual predator.

So by your logic, if one hires a nanny or a maid, one must be a sexual predator? Ridiculous!

[_Bazooka]

So by your logic, if one hires a nanny or a maid, one must be a sexual predator? Ridiculous!

Well...only if one; hires the nanny; marries her in an secret illegal ceremony without ones wife knowing about it; gets her "up the duff" to the point your wife has to get her to move out before the bump starts to show; and then denies all knowledge about plural marriages before making off with the collection plate.

[_ZelphtheGreat]

"So by your logic, if one hires a nanny or a maid, one must be a sexual predator? Ridiculous!"

bc, do you know how to read, or even think about what you post?

[_Jutta]

I have few problems with the juvenile women of Joseph Smith; than with the women who were already married to other men.

[_bcspace]

I have few problems with the juvenile women of Joseph Smith; than with the women who were already married to other men.

But did they live with both men at the same time or travel back and forth in an actual marriage relationship with each? And what about their sealings? Does that always equate to a marriage relationship in this life? The answer to both questions of course, is no. The facts on the ground don't match the sordid criticisms.

[_Themis]

But did they live with both men at the same time or travel back and forth in an actual marriage relationship with each? And what about their sealings? Does that always equate to a marriage relationship in this life? The answer to both questions of course, is no. The facts on the ground don't match the sordid criticisms.

I am not sure what living with both men has to do with anything. We know he married them, and behind most of their husbands back. Ignoring all the other evidence this would suggest they were not just sealings for the next life. Why would BY have sex with one of Joseph's wives who was already married to a living man?

[_Bazooka]

I have few problems with the juvenile women of Joseph Smith; than with the women who were already married to other men.

But did they live with both men at the same time or travel back and forth in an actual marriage relationship with each? And what about their sealings? Does that always equate to a marriage relationship in this life? The answer to both questions of course, is no. The facts on the ground don't match the sordid criticisms.

Actually, the fact that he married them at all is damning enough.
It is also in complete contradiction to the "rules of engagement" for plurality of wives as laid out in D&C 132.
The moment Joseph married already married women (whether sealing only, sex or no sex) he was in apostasy.

[_ZelphtheGreat]

I have few problems with the juvenile women of Joseph Smith; than with the women who were already married to other men.

But did they live with both men at the same time or travel back and forth in an actual marriage relationship with each? And what about their sealings? Does that always equate to a marriage relationship in this life? The answer to both questions of course, is no. The facts on the ground don't match the sordid criticisms.

What you can justify and the reality of what you ignore in doing so knows no bounds.