Dan Peterson breaks Church Rules in pursuit of Mopologetics

[_LDSToronto]

Is there any reason Dan should not be reported to Church authorities for misuse of church records?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Is there any reason Dan should not be reported to Church authorities for misuse of church records?

I think, at a minimum, DCP's bishop friend should be reported (i.e., for breaking the use provision quoted above by 3sheets2thewind in order to access the Church leadership directory). Problem is, we don't know who he is.

[_Jaybear]

Is there any reason Dan should not be reported to Church authorities for misuse of church records?

Because that is something that Dan Peterson would do.
The world doesn't need more people who act like Dan Peterson.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Is there any reason Dan should not be reported to Church authorities for misuse of church records?

Because that is something that Dan Peterson would do.
The world doesn't need more people who act like Dan Peterson.

I suspect Church authorities would wish to know if one of their current bishops is violating the use restrictions for the Church leadership directory or any other Church record/document.

[Guest]

There are two ways to access Church Leadership Directory.

There is cdol1, last updated 2004 and conditions of use are different than the updated CDOL.

This if from CDOL1 (last updated 2004 but sign in page shows © 2000, 2013 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. (CDOL - 1.2.49)
Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 15 March 2004).:

DATA PRIVACY
We are very sensitive to concerns about the use and security of personal information provided through the site. Personal information is collected from Church religious leaders and posted on the site in order to facilitate communication about matters relating to Church ecclesiastical and administrative matters. Church religious leaders agree that they have knowingly provided their personal information for the purposes described above. In the event of errors in the personal information, the leader may have that material corrected by sending an e-mail to: MSR-Feedback@ldschurch.org

In some jurisdictions informed consent of data subjects is necessary before transborder transfers are permitted. Religious leaders consent that their personal information in this site may be transferred to countries with less restrictive or no data privacy laws.

Here is what I believe is the updated and/or current CDOL conditions of use. There is no "Data Privacy" section in the updated and/or current version.

[_Bazooka]

There are two ways to access Church Leadership Directory.

There is cdol1, last updated 2004 and conditions of use are different than the updated CDOL.

This if from CDOL1 (last updated 2004 but sign in page shows © 2000, 2013 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. (CDOL - 1.2.49)
Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 15 March 2004).:
DATA PRIVACY
We are very sensitive to concerns about the use and security of personal information provided through the site. Personal information is collected from Church religious leaders and posted on the site in order to facilitate communication about matters relating to Church ecclesiastical and administrative matters. Church religious leaders agree that they have knowingly provided their personal information for the purposes described above. In the event of errors in the personal information, the leader may have that material corrected by sending an e-mail to: MSR-Feedback@ldschurch.org

In some jurisdictions informed consent of data subjects is necessary before transborder transfers are permitted. Religious leaders consent that their personal information in this site may be transferred to countries with less restrictive or no data privacy laws.

Here is what I believe is the updated and/or current CDOL conditions of use. There is no "Data Privacy" section in the updated and/or current version.

This bit would apply in this case:

You may view, download, and print material from this site only for your personal, noncommercial use directly related to your work for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (whether as a volunteer, as part of a Church calling, or as a paid employee of an affiliated legal entity)

[Guest]

Bazooka,

That is the question.

Is a Bishop 1 (who seems to acting on the behest of a "friend") acting within the scope of his permission to access records, if Bishop 1 is attempting to locate a person who purports to be a Bishop 2 and said Bishop 2 posts things on the internet that Bishop 1 friend might think or believe show that Bishop 2 is acting in a manner contrary to that of a Bishops calling?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

There are two ways to access Church Leadership Directory.

Thanks for this information. I noticed a significant change to the "Conditions of Use" for the most recent site. Here is the current language (the new language in bold):

You may view, download, and print material from this site only for your personal, noncommercial use directly related to your work for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (whether as a volunteer, as part of a Church calling, or as a paid employee of an affiliated legal entity).

Here is the same sentence as it appears in the "Conditions of Use" on the old site (the replaced words are in bold):

You may view, download, and print material from this site only for your personal, noncommercial use unless otherwise indicated.

Assuming DCP's bishop friend used the new site, then I think it's pretty obvious he violated the applicable "Conditions of Use."

[_Bazooka]

Bazooka,

That is the question.

Is a Bishop 1 (who seems to acting on the behest of a "friend") acting within the scope of his permission to access records, if Bishop 1 is attempting to locate a person who purports to be a Bishop 2 and said Bishop 2 posts things on the internet that Bishop 1 friend does not like?

I agree, but I think acting upon a request from DCP to investigate the names of people on a private trip to the Middle east is not part of that Bishops Church 'work'.
It's personal interest for a private individual.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Is a Bishop 1 (who seems to acting on the behest of a "friend") acting within the scope of his permission to access records, if Bishop 1 is attempting to locate a person who purports to be a Bishop 2 and said Bishop 2 posts things on the internet that Bishop 1 friend does not like?

for what it's worth, here's my opinion. Because Bishop 1 is accessing the records at the request and for the benefit of a friend (who is not a bishop and, therefore, otherwise had no access himself), that access is not "directly related to [Bishop 1's] work for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ... as part of a Church calling ...." Thus, Bishop 1 violated the "Conditions of Use" to get information for DCP.