Mission Call

[_Themis]

that is all a bunch of happy horse****. the church has invested in a software program that provides them the data they need, and algorithms, to assign missionaries.

My memory supports this. I remember the apostle saying that they did use computers. I think church staff would prepare everything for them.

if an apostle sits in a room and looks over the list, great, it would be just a formality. but there is no way that one of those 15 old dudes is reading missionary applications, praying, seeking revelation, or anything of the sort.

If they can be in the room, then they could be the ones to assign each one. As I said earlier there are supposed to be 2 apostles working on it for about 4 hours each week. I don't see anyone here suggesting they pray about or read every application. Even my memory suggests an apostle is being open about how the process is done.

with 60,000 missionaries serving an average of 20 months, they would be reviewing 3000 applications a month. at 2 minutes each, that would be 6000 minutes, or 100 hours a month to look at the applications. it would still be 25 hours a month for an apostle to spend 30 seconds on a missionary. That is not happening.

If we have as you say 3000 applications each month, 2 apostles need to assign 375 each week. If each takes 30 secs to do, then it would take about 187 minutes to do it. I believe that is well under 4 hours. I see no reason they could not work that fast with all the information being provided on a computer for them.

i find it rather cultish, at a minimum, that anyone would be flattered that an apostle would spend 30 seconds looking at their application, before the teen commits 2 years and a bunch of money to work for free and get the hell abused out of them. hasa diga eebowai.

Perhaps, but then I never understood why so many go crazy about seeing people like Justin Bieber.

[_Craig Paxton]

I am only going on memory as well, but my memory is that this was coming from an apostle explaining the process. I seem to remember him saying it took about 4 hours. This was before the increase in missionaries from the age reduction, so they may need one or two more. With the old numbers you they would both be doing about 500 people in a 4 hour session. That's about 30 sec for each which is reasonable considering most of the information they need is already compiled for them.

I think they may continue, for now, to do the process since the increase in mission numbers is only temporary.

that is all a bunch of happy horse****. the church has invested in a software program that provides them the data they need, and algorithms, to assign missionaries. if an apostle sits in a room and looks over the list, great, it would be just a formality. but there is no way that one of those 15 old dudes is reading missionary applications, praying, seeking revelation, or anything of the sort.

with 60,000 missionaries serving an average of 20 months, they would be reviewing 3000 applications a month. at 2 minutes each, that would be 6000 minutes, or 100 hours a month to look at the applications. it would still be 25 hours a month for an apostle to spend 30 seconds on a missionary. That is not happening.

i find it rather cultish, at a minimum, that anyone would be flattered that an apostle would spend 30 seconds looking at their application, before the teen commits 2 years and a bunch of money to work for free and get the hell abused out of them. hasa diga eebowai.

I KNOW that they ahve a computer program that makes the assignments...then a member of the 12 can over ride the computer assigned calling if he "feels" so inclined to do so. How do I know? I wrote the program when i worked for the church. j/k...my neighbor wrote the program and he personally told me all about it. He used to work for the church.

[_Dr. Shades]

I KNOW that they have a computer program that makes the assignments...then a member of the 12 can over ride the computer assigned calling if he "feels" so inclined to do so. How do I know?...my neighbor wrote the program and he personally told me all about it. He used to work for the church.

How did it work before your neighbor wrote the program?

[_Bazooka]

I KNOW that they have a computer program that makes the assignments...then a member of the 12 can over ride the computer assigned calling if he "feels" so inclined to do so. How do I know?...my neighbor wrote the program and he personally told me all about it. He used to work for the church.

How did it work before your neighbor wrote the program?

Have you ever played 'pin the tail on the donkey'?

[_subgenius]

I KNOW that they have a computer program that makes the assignments...then a member of the 12 can over ride the computer assigned calling if he "feels" so inclined to do so. How do I know? I wrote the program when i worked for the church. j/k...my neighbor wrote the program and he personally told me all about it. He used to work for the church.

this is hearsay and a fallacy as an appeal to authority.
If you had seen the program personally then there might be some credibility involved.
In fact, you do not KNOW anything more than what someone else told you...which is tantamount to ascribing truth to gossip.

[_Mayan Elephant]

In fact, you do not KNOW anything more than what someone else told you...which is tantamount to ascribing truth to gossip.

someone told me the red sox won the world series in 2004. just sayin. i better call TMZ.

[_bcspace]

The mission is going to be what you make of it. I was disappointed I didn't go foreign but I got some good comps the second year after having to babysit much of the first year and we had a lot of success. Was ZL last six months and we made it the top zone with a work hard play hard (on Monday; P-Day) attitude. We even resurrected a pair of deadbeat missionaries and they finally had their first baptisms just a month before they went home.

[_Bazooka]

In fact, you do not KNOW anything more than what someone else told you...which is tantamount to ascribing truth to gossip.

So believing what Joseph Smith said is "tantamount to ascribing truth to gossip"....who knew.