Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
_Kevin Graham
_Emeritus
Posts: 13037
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:44 pm

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _Kevin Graham »

Of course none of these facts will suffice for those back in the Right Wing bubble. Their minds were made up from the start, which is why they keep reciting these old pieces from years ago. They can't accept that Obama's first term did wonders in changing the Israeli perception of him. That shatters their worldview and decimates one of their favored talking points about how he has to be an enemy to Israel because Limbaugh and Hannity say so.
_Droopy
_Emeritus
Posts: 9826
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _Droopy »

Kevin Graham wrote:I figured you'd provide the well outdated piece from over four years ago to make your point, all the while ignoring recent polling data that has Obama with a majority approval rating.

That's droopy for ya!

Always two steps behind.



Two steps behind - except for the liberal USA Today, which is apparently two steps and a back-flip with a half-twist ahead of you:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2 ... n/2004343/

In any case, 54% is a bare, fingertip-hanging majority, and polls such as this don't capture the depth, variability, or psychological basis of such support. Israel is still surrounded by a number of nations harboring genocidal intentions against the Jews and Israel as a state, and Obama has done nothing but appease and engage in the most grotesque paroxysms of self-delusion regarding the nature of the region and the intentions/psychologies of Israel's enemies.

Obama's tiny increase in popularity since last year will be ephemeral and fleeting - as will be his popularity here, once the consequences of his governance really begin to be felt, and felt keenly.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
_Kittens_and_Jesus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1233
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:41 pm

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _Kittens_and_Jesus »

Droopy wrote:
In any case, 54% is a bare, fingertip-hanging majority...


Its the kind of margin that our politicians get elected by, and yet if he were an R you would call this a mandate.
As soon as you concern yourself with the 'good' and 'bad' of your fellows, you create an opening in your heart for maliciousness to enter. Testing, competing with, and criticizing others weaken and defeat you. - O'Sensei
_subgenius
_Emeritus
Posts: 13326
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _subgenius »

Kevin Graham wrote:Poll: Barack Obama rising with Jews - in Israel

In just a year, Jewish Israelis’ opinion of President Barack Obama has turned on its head, according to a new Saban Center for Middle East Policy poll....9snip)...

a poll from an arm of the Brookings Institute?
a poll from a group who receives its largest funding from the Ford Foundation, the Gates Foundation, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and her husband Richard C. Blum ?
KG you are truly brainwashed and the king of lemmings
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
_Droopy
_Emeritus
Posts: 9826
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 4:06 pm

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _Droopy »

Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:
Droopy wrote:
In any case, 54% is a bare, fingertip-hanging majority...


Its the kind of margin that our politicians get elected by, and yet if he were an R you would call this a mandate.



I would never call 54% a "mandate," and never have.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
_Tarski
_Emeritus
Posts: 3059
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:57 pm

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _Tarski »

Droopy wrote:
In any case, 54% is a bare, fingertip-hanging majority

.



You said:
"Obama is actually widely recognized, not the least by a clear majority of Israelis themselves, as being deeply hostile to Israel."

That is totally incompatible with 54% approval and there is no indication that even the remaining 46% take the extreme and ridiculous view that Obama is "deeply hostile to Israel".

In short, you spouted an egregious falsehood as usual.
when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie

yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo
_Ceeboo
_Emeritus
Posts: 7625
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:58 am

Re: Obama receives standing ovation in Israel

Post by _Ceeboo »

Was Everybody Wang Chung there?


Peace,
Ceeboo
Post Reply