Evolution Again!

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_ludwigm
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Re: Evolution Again!

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I am sorry, folks...

Evolution works in reality this way:

[#img] http://wumocomicstrip.com/img/strip/-WM ... -04-09.gif[/img]

And a NSFW one:
http://wumocomicstrip.com/img/strip/-WM ... -09-30.gif
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Re: Evolution Again!

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ludwigm wrote:I am sorry, folks...

Evolution works in reality this way:

Image

And a NSFW one:
http://wumocomicstrip.com/img/strip/-WM ... -09-30.gif
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_Ceeboo
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Re: Evolution Again!

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Hello friends! :smile:

I invite any/all to pull up a chair and shoot the crap with Ceeboo

(Please don't feel you are required to spend your time in posting to teach me anything! No need to offer me any books to read! Participation in not mandatory, it is purely OPTIONAL!) :smile

Another mind-bender (in my opinion)

Sexual Reproduction and Mitosis (Cell splitting for reproduction):

So how did this all work:

One multi-cellular animal grew an appendage (after millions of years) then decided to insert it into a fold of another mult-celluar animal that didn't have this appendage. just because, or to merely see what would happen?

How could perfectly matched male and female sexual organs evolve in separate individuals of a species?

The random mutations and natural selection of one gender would have to know what random mutations and natural selection was taking place for the other gender (All with no "intelligence" involved)

What about cell mitosis?
This an all or none event, yes?
Splitting of cells cannot evolve in steps (.0001, .0002. etc). It's a split of no-split deal, yes?

What about copulation? (All or none event, yes?)
What about the fertilization of sperm and female egg? (All or none event, yes?)

Anybody want to share their thoughts/perspectives/opinions?

Peace,
Ceeboo
_Res Ipsa
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Re: Evolution Again!

Post by _Res Ipsa »

Ceeboo, here's a partial answer for partial credit. Sexual reproduction began at the single cell level.
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_Quasimodo
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Re: Evolution Again!

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This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.

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Re: Evolution Again!

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:smile:

Peace,
Ceeboo
_Harold Lee
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Re: Evolution Again!

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Ceeboo wrote:Hello friends! :smile:

I invite any/all to pull up a chair and shoot the s*** with Ceeboo

(Please don't feel you are required to spend your time in posting to teach me anything! No need to offer me any books to read! Participation in not mandatory, it is purely OPTIONAL!) :smile

Another mind-bender (in my opinion)

Sexual Reproduction and Mitosis (Cell splitting for reproduction):

So how did this all work:

One multi-cellular animal grew an appendage (after millions of years) then decided to insert it into a fold of another mult-celluar animal that didn't have this appendage. just because, or to merely see what would happen?

How could perfectly matched male and female sexual organs evolve in separate individuals of a species?

The random mutations and natural selection of one gender would have to know what random mutations and natural selection was taking place for the other gender (All with no "intelligence" involved)

What about cell mitosis?
This an all or none event, yes?
Splitting of cells cannot evolve in steps (.0001, .0002. etc). It's a split of no-split deal, yes?

What about copulation? (All or none event, yes?)
What about the fertilization of sperm and female egg? (All or none event, yes?)

Anybody want to share their thoughts/perspectives/opinions?

Peace,
Ceeboo


Actually it's impossible for sexual reproduction to have evolved- because modern mitosis (which was helpfully identified as cellular reproduction) is indeed "an all or nothing event" (it makes sense to me I don't need to define it) and modern sexual reproduction is also. It's completely impossible.

I'll leave it to others to prove us wrong. I'm on team Ceeboo now. :)
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Re: Evolution Again!

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Harold Lee wrote:All your raccoons are belong to us.
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Re: Evolution Again!

Post by _Ceeboo »

Hey Harold! :smile:

Harold Lee wrote: I'm on team Ceeboo now. :)


AWESOME and welcome aboard!!!!!

You might be pleased to learn that all those that join "team-Ceeboo" will receive a free box of Cee-volution cereal. (Racoon shaped corn puffs that, when milk is added, turn into whale shaped corn puffs that actually swim around in your bowl)

Peace,
Ceeboo
_Harold Lee
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Re: Evolution Again!

Post by _Harold Lee »

God dammit I hate you.

:wink: :smile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... FYTc55nGEI

"I prefer a man who can swear a stream as long as my arm but deals justly with his brethren to the long, smooth-faced hypocrite." -Joseph Smith
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