Dan Peterson breaks Church Rules in pursuit of Mopologetics

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Re: Dan Peterson breaks Church Rules in pursuit of Mopologet

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stemelbow wrote:Well, now you're just attributing intentions that are not what intentions were claimed. If you could stick to the facts it'd be nice.
It was already suggested taht Dan didn't expect to uncover Everybody Wang Chung's identity because he knew Everybody Wang Chung was lying. The attempt was not as you classify it.
But if you are intent on revealing Dan's intent by practicing mind reading, be my guest.


As I repeated, over and over ... this has nothing to do with Everybody Wang Chung, it has to do with the reason the DB was accessed for in the first place. The Church's privacy policy states that any access must be done in direct association with one's job with the Church or their calling. I believe that DarthJ was repeated a very simple statement with a blank line, over and over that highlights this fact.

Well stem, time to put you back on mental ignore, as I know this is a waste of time.
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stemelbow wrote:
Rollo Tomasi wrote:It was the attempt to uncover an anonymous poster's identify by accessing the directory that violated the "conditions of use." It didn't matter whether DCP's bishop friend found anything.

Well, now you're just attributing intentions that are not what intentions were claimed. If you could stick to the facts it'd be nice.

I apologize for being unclear. I meant "attempt" in the sense that it didn't matter if the bishop actually found anything or that Wang Chung was unmasked. It was the bishop's actual access of the directory based on DCP's request for information about Wang Chung, that violated the Church's "conditions of use."

It was already suggested that Dan didn't expect to uncover Everybody Wang Chung's identity because he knew Everybody Wang Chung was lying. The attempt was not as you classify it.

And if you believe that, I've got some nice swamp land I'll sell to you real cheap. If the bishop friend had found that one person on Dan's customer list for that tour was also a current bishop (per the Church leadership directory), you think he wouldn't have given that name to DCP? You're not really that gullible, are you?

But if you are intent on revealing Dan's intent by practicing mind reading, be my guest.

My conclusions about Dan are based on his own admissions -- he's his own worst enemy.
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Re: Dan Peterson breaks Church Rules in pursuit of Mopologet

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stemelbow wrote:I've been asked to report Jersey Girl's nailing of Rockslider and his practices on Liz's board.


Too funny, yes I'll bet the queen is going ape crap over all this. MDDB2 is great for proxies for the self exhiled Dan and the perma banned Jersey Girl.

However, might I suggest you start a new thread to air the queens words, as they do not apply to this topic, as I've already mentioned.
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RockSlider wrote:As I repeated, over and over ... this has nothing to do with Everybody Wang Chung, it has to do with the reason the DB was accessed for in the first place.


And you and Rollo claim the reason he accessed it was for what? I am saying what DCP is saying--he knew Everybody Wang Chung was lying so he asked it to be accessed to confirm.

The Church's privacy policy states that any access must be done in direct association with one's job with the Church or their calling. I believe that DarthJ was repeated a very simple statement with a blank line, over and over that highlights this fact.

Well stem, time to put you back on mental ignore, as I know this is a waste of time.


Great. So are you guys ready to turn him in? I'm not denying that there was a letter of the law violation here. I'm merely saying when taken in front of a court of the Church the case will be laughed out of there.

I know I've been repeating this time and again and not getting a response, but there it is again.

Put the dissenting voices on ignore. That's cool.
Love ya tons,
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Jersey Girl's statement seems odd to me.

Does it occur to you that he is simply sick of your sh*t?

Once again, you've generated what, 15 pages of unproductive nonsense wherein your intellectual dishonesty, lack of responsibility taking and general dancing around has served only to exasperate the most patient of posters on this board.

You think that when people disagree with what you're laying down it means they don't "like" you. Everyone is suddenly mean to you, hostile, bitter or angry.

I'll tell you what they don't like. They don't like the dancing around, the avoidance, the lack of ability to respond on point and your general jerking around everyone in sight.

I long for the day when you start another similar thread and not one poster on this board responds to it, because they aren't about to take you seriously and follow you into the ever sucking vortex that you tend to generate.


Repeatedly Darth J and others have asked people to explicitly state how this use meets the terms of agreement and not one to my memory has even tried.
Avoidance? Dancing around?
In this case that's "team Dan" to a T.
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RockSlider wrote:
stemelbow wrote:I've been asked to report Jersey Girl's nailing of Rockslider and his practices on Liz's board.


Too funny, yes I'll bet the queen is going ape s*** over all this. MDDB2 is great for proxies for the self exhiled Dan and the perma banned Jersey Girl.

However, might I suggest you start a new thread to air the queens words, as they do not apply to this topic, as I've already mentioned.


you're the one who brought it all up, Rock. I realize the uneven moderating here is problematic, but if anyone is to move something into a new thread it ought to be your comments, goofball.
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stemelbow wrote: Great. So are you guys ready to turn him in? I'm not denying that there was a letter of the law violation here. I'm merely saying when taken in front of a court of the Church the case will be laughed out of there.


So he broke the "letter of the law" but they won't care.
Good to know the church doesn't care about keeping allegedly confidential information private or about following their own guidelines.
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Stormy Waters wrote:Jersey Girl's statement seems odd to me.


It lacks context and was reproduced from a place we simply don't have access to. You’d probably need to read those 15 pages first before what she says makes any sense. My guess is that Stem posted to try and belittle Rockslider.
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:I apologize for being unclear. I meant "attempt" in the sense that it didn't matter if the bishop actually found anything or that Wang Chung was unmasked. It was the bishop's actual access of the directory based on DCP's request for information about Wang Chung, that violated the Church's "conditions of use."


And as I've said, that's fine by me. Go ahead and turn them in. See how it get's laughed out of there since your technicality here is not paying attention tot he spirit of it all.

And if you believe that, I've got some nice swamp land I'll sell to you real cheap. If the bishop friend had found that one person on Dan's customer list for that tour was also a current bishop (per the Church leadership directory), you think he wouldn't have given that name to DCP? You're not really that gullible, are you?


Sheesh. Why must it be a matter of gullibility? Who cares? It didn't happen. If a bishop was found, then we might have the discussion, but we aren't are we? Why must you guys be so angry with nearly everything DCP does and says.

My conclusions about Dan are based on his own admissions -- he's his own worst enemy.


Alright. Then stop whimpering about it. This comes off as whining and nothing more. I'm sure you too realize that if this was ever brought up in some court preceding everyone would laugh it right out of the room.

But technically, you have a case. So go for it.
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stemelbow wrote:Great. So are you guys ready to turn him in? I'm not denying that there was a letter of the law violation here. I'm merely saying when taken in front of a court of the Church the case will be laughed out of there.


Sure, please verify with Dan that it is indeed Greg Smith that we should be turning in so that there is no speculation.
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