Obama orders same policy that sparked mortgage meltdown

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Obama orders same policy that sparked mortgage meltdown

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Undaunted by the housing market collapse that crashed mortgage banks, cut the rug from underneath homeowner equity and slammed taxpayers for billions in bad loans, the Obama administration now has launched a major push for banks to hand out mortgages to those with “weaker credit,” including some on public assistance.

Edward Pinto, a former top executive at Fannie Mae, now with the American Enterprise Institute, confirmed to WND the government’s adoption of a strategy that requires banks to lend to less qualified borrowers or face discrimination complaints.

Just like before
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He is outraged, as are other housing industry experts and economists.

“This push by FHA will continue to set up for failure the very families and neighborhoods its mission is to help,” he told WND.

Economist Stan Liebowitz told WND the move is an “unnecessary risk being imposed on the economy for no gain except some political chits being generated by politicians for their own venal purposes.”

Liebowitz, an economics professor at the University of Texas at Dallas, said the federal government is once again pushing banks to lower lending standards, which is “exactly what the government did starting in the mid 1990s.”

Yet the worst problem with the administration’s approach could be that it fails to resolve a disturbing underlying issue: the large number of homeowners with negative equity – or homes on which they owe more than the value.

Nobel Prize-winning economist Vernon Smith told WND that 22 percent of homeowners are in negative equity, which places the nation in bad company.

“This household condition means that their too-big-to-fail banks have similar balance sheet stress, and these twin problems are significant in explaining why the U.S. economy is stuck,” he said. “Our evidence indicates that for two decades Japan has been stuck in low growth for the same reasons.”

The administration is reportedly seeking to “encourage safe lending to borrowers who have the financial wherewithal to pay.”

Liebowitz calls that representation “George Orwell doublespeak.”

“Banks are always happy to make safe loans, since it is in their self interest to do so. They do not need to be pressured to do so,” he explained. “The only reason pressure is currently needed is because these are not safe loans and banks know it.”

Pinto noted that the government “is actively encouraging lenders to originate loans that have a 15, 20, even 25 percent chance of foreclosure.”

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Even so, the Obama administration is “doubling down on the disastrous policy mistakes that led to the mortgage crisis and Great Recession by pressuring lenders to finance homes for people who can’t afford them,” according to Paul Sperry, a Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “The Great American Bank Robbery.”

Sperry told WND that under “federal orders issued by the Justice Department, the biggest mortgage lenders in the country – including Wells Fargo and Bank of America – are being forced to advertise in minority media and offer loans even to people on public assistance.”

He said the coercion placed on banks is severe: “They have to adopt minority-friendly loan programs over the next several years or face investigation for discrimination.”

The coercion comes “not just from FHA and Justice and HUD but from the entire regulatory complex of federal financial agencies – including the powerful new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.”

Indeed, Attorney General Eric Holder has made clear that affirmative action has just begun.

“Affirmative action has been an issue since segregation practices,” Holder said. “The question is not when does [affirmative action] end, but when does it begin? … When do people of color truly get the benefits to which they are entitled
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Sperry believes the current policy is nothing less than a “shakedown” to force banks to give “easy credit.”

Concerns about a racial gap in home ownership fueled the first subprime mortgage debacle.

Columnist Thomas Sowell, an early critic of lax lending practices, noted statistical studies about “disparities between blacks and whites in mortgage loan approval rates might be said to have ‘jump-started’ the housing crusades that began in the 1990s.”

“Loudly proclaimed concern for the poor and minorities gave impetus to the drive for over-riding traditional mortgage lending standards,” he said, which housing speculators then took further advantage of by flipping homes.

In what could turn out to be a repeat of past policy, the Washington Post described a scenario in which federal bureaucrats are “encouraging lenders to use more subjective judgment in determining whether to offer a loan.”

The president himself had a hand in pressuring banks for subprime mortgages. An investigation by The Daily Caller shows President Obama “was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble.”

As a young attorney, in the only private sector job he has held outside of college, Obama and the firm he worked for sued Citibank. The suit claimed that Citibank discriminated against 186 people by rejecting them for mortgages.

After suing banks to force them to lend loosely, some of Obama’s former clients now think banks should not be allowed to lend loosely.

“If you see some people don’t make enough money to afford the mortgage, why would you give them a loan?” asked John Buchanan, one of Obama’s clients. “There should be some type of regulation against giving people loans they can’t afford,” he told The Daily Caller.

Liebowitz warns that “a potential disaster … could happen again” if there would be a downturn in housing prices.

He also blasted the media for empowering government regulators.

“The administration can call dangerous loans ‘safe’ till they turn blue in the face, but it isn’t true,” he said. “Unfortunately, most of the mainstream media will go along with their doublespeak, because that is what the mainstream media does
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Strong institutional pressures affect bankers who are tied into government-backed mortgages. Liebowitz warned that these pressures virtually guarantee that dissent against subprime mortgages will be non-existent within the banks.

Bankers, he said, “who don’t go along will be replaced since these extremely highly regulated institutions know that they must go along with government to survive.”

Obama orders same policy that sparked mortgage meltdown. Government: Lend to less qualified or face discrimination lawsuits


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I just refuted this nonsense in cinepro's thread, which he started two weeks ago. You folks simply do not understand the housing crisis, why it happened, and who is to blame.

Blaming minorities and poorer folks is a typical knee-jerk Republican response, which tells us more about their racist, bigoted view of the country.
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Kevin Graham wrote:I just refuted this nonsense in cinepro's thread, which he started two weeks ago. You folks simply do not understand the housing crisis, why it happened, and who is to blame.

Blaming minorities and poorer folks is a typical knee-jerk Republican response, which tells us more about their racist, bigoted view of the country.

you refuted it, but not successfully or accurately...and mostly just as a press release of talking points cut-n-pasted from whatever MSNBC told you was true and accurate.
Most, if not every, every authentic and valid study seems to disagree with your verbose and skewed "refutations".
So, while you may claim that you "refuted"...it seems more like you just opined.

No one is blaming poor folks...the blame is rightfully being placed on the policies and procedures that took advantage of poor folks...and these same tactics are being implemented by Obama.
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You still don't get it do you?

I have no idea why this is so difficult for you to grasp. Here, let me dumb it down further for you. There are several groups of people who were involved in the Housing Crisis.

Borrowers:

A. Poorer folks.
B. Minorities.
C. Middle-class folks.
D. Wealthier folks.

Lenders:

E. Government lenders.
F. Private lenders.


Now the Right Wing immediately started blaming those who fall into categories A, B and E.

As I have proven, all the evidence points to everyone else being mostly responsible. But that reality doesn't fit the bigoted narrative or anti-government paranoia that so pervades in Right Wing psyche, so it just gets ignored and you folks continue to live in your fantasy bubble.

Not only do you get it wrong by blaming mostly the borrowers, but you get wrong the type of borrower who is most culpable. Every study, from academic studies, to the findings by the FBI, say that those most culpable were private lenders (F), and the next groups most culpable are C and D. The only people who say anything different are Right Wing bloggers.

Asserting that I've only relied on MSNBC is not a response because it is demonstrably false. I am the only person who has bothered to cite studies on this issue. People like Cinepro merely regurgitate the original Right Wing talking points and he doesn't even properly represent the article he is citing. I asked him to produce evidence they were gung ho about giving bad loans" and neither of you can produce. You just made it up.

Once you properly understand who is to blame for all of this, you'd understand why I said these programs are designed to help people who got screwed due to no fault of their own. You seem oblivious to the fact that millions of Americans fall into this category, which says more about your ignorance and your preference of "news" outlets.
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subgenius wrote:No one is blaming poor folks...the blame is rightfully being placed on the policies and procedures that took advantage of poor folks...and these same tactics are being implemented by Obama.


Here is an editorial that appeared in the Kansas City Star a couple of months ago which explains what really caused the financial crisis.
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/13/40 ... didn't.html

The air that filled the housing bubble was provided by private investors that voluntarily—nay, eagerly—invested in mortgage-backed securities that were backed by sub-prime mortgages. The financial crisis was caused by these private investors waking up and deciding that they didn’t want to hold the assets they purchased anymore.

In essence, the whole episode was a market-driven bubble and a market-driven correction.
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subgenius is willfully ignorant on this issue, and now he is suggesting the Right Wing has been on the side of minorities all along, and that it was the evil government who took advantage of them? This doesn't even begin to make sense. Every detail suggests the exact opposite is true.

The first line of attack conjured up by the Right was to claim the CRA was to blame. Of course, anyone familiar with the CRA argument knows it is about blaming government for "forcing" innocent banks to give "bad loans" to irresponsible people, particularly minorities. I watched FOX News religiously as this argument played itself out back in 2008, and I remember Hannity repeatedly slamming the borrowers, telling his critics that these uneducated minorities should have been smart enough to read the 300+ pages and fine print before buying a home. Never once did he have any criticism for the predatory lenders.

Subgenius says no one blames the poor, but that is exactly what the Right Wing media has done. Michelle Malkin went so far as to blame illegal immigration for the housing crisis! While the banks were paying billions in a settlement due to their own unlawful acts, the Right Wing media was running to their defense and attacking those who were abused, calling it a "deadbeat bailout."

After the housing bubble burst and the nation slid into a recession, the right-wing media deflected blame from Wall Street and the banks and placed it onto minorities and the government programs that aided them. That claim was false. Economists, the Federal Reserve, and the Financial Crisis Inquiry Report all agree that minorities and these government programs are not to blame, but right-wing media have made this argument over and over, and continue to make this claim to this day.

Cinepro is simply relaying their talking points without offering any critical analysis of his own. He just accepts it blindly.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Cinepro is simply relaying their talking points without offering any critical analysis of his own. He just accepts it blindly.


Kevin, just so I can make sure we're talking about the same thing, what is your understanding of the word "subprime"?

For example, we have the terms "subprime loan", "subprime borrower" and "subprime mortgage". What is the meaning of that word?
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cinepro wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:Cinepro is simply relaying their talking points without offering any critical analysis of his own. He just accepts it blindly.


Kevin, just so I can make sure we're talking about the same thing, what is your understanding of the word "subprime"?

For example, we have the terms "subprime loan", "subprime borrower" and "subprime mortgage". What is the meaning of that word?

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Analytics wrote:In essence, the whole episode was a market-driven bubble and a market-driven correction.


Yes, but the government is heavily involved in the "market". It isn't an either/or proposition.
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KG,
get out of the weeds my friend....reality, once again, disagrees with your fantasy.


Whites represent the majority of at-risk borrowers...but....african americans and latinos represent almost twice the percentile of those in imminent foreclosure. This has been shown to be regardless of any differences with income.
http://www.responsiblelending.org/mortg ... nicity.pdf
http://www.responsiblelending.org/mortg ... -data.html


The majority of people affected by foreclosures have been white families. However, borrowers of color are more than twice as likely to lose their home as white households. These higher rates reflect the fact that African Americans and Latinos were consistently more likely to receive high-risk loan products, even after accounting for income and credit status (emphasis=mine...fail=yours)
http://www.responsiblelending.org/mortg ... ummary.pdf

Most every study has shared the same conclusion...the rise in loans with high risk default and the relaxing of controls and standards caused the housing crisis. (emphasis mine)
"Foreclosure patterns are strongly linked with patterns of risky lending"
http://www.responsiblelending.org/mortg ... -2011.html

correlate that with the OP...

Obama is promoting that we "rise" the loans to high risk default borrowers and "relax" current controls and standards.


According to you, KG, the picture below is intended as a lineup...and the old white guy in the middle is the one who did it all!

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