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Wade Englund wrote:
Yes...I am a thrill-a-minute for the menopausal women my age. They shriek with delight when I take out my false teeth and gum their earlobes. That is enough to send us each to the Bishop's office for prolonged disciplinary action.
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Lightbearer Wrote:
If your criticism will diminish the loyalty of others to that GA, or undermine his judgment, or discredit his authority then yes we are absolutely morally obligated to hold our peace. I do not care what the subject is, political, social, cultural, moral or religious the authorities have a right to speak out on that subject. The reason they are called General Authorities is because they have a right to speak for the Church--Not you or me.


This Church is not ruled by debate or consensus or is a democracy. The individual members do not dictate to the Lord's servants what a policy or doctrine or practice ought to be. .... As for Elder McConkie, he was an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ just as much a Peter or Paul was and although fallible (as WE all are) he spoke what he knew was true and tried to speculate on some matters in search of an answer. The only errors I recall was in his timing that the priesthood would not be offered to the black race in this life (his opinion) but he did not have to be persuaded of the error, as soon as the Prophet spoke he reversed himself and was in full agreement with the revelation of God. I am sick and tired of people who try to discredit Elder McConkie over this and other supposed errors. Just because he was in error (where no revelation was given) does not mean we can or should reject everything else he said or did because of it. He was never removed from his apostolic office...

Questioning authority should be the American way... political authority, man invented authority! But not God's authority! Not priesthood authority. The Lord has told us how we should respect that authority:

.... The talks in conference are not a buffet of counsel that we can accept if we agree with it or reject if it offends our opinions.

Of course you have the agency to do as you wish, but you have no right to publicly denouce a general authority and then smugly think there should be no consequences. Sonya Johnson discovered that too late. But shouting down general authorities in conference or flying a banner from an airplane that says "Mother in Heaven is for ERA" is not the way to "disagree" with opinions of the Church's leaders.

... To quote a phrase that has become unpopular in this modern 21st century anarchy: "When the Prophet speaks the debate is over!"


http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/60539-signs-of-apostasy-what-are-the-limits-of-dissent-in-the-church/page__st__20
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The brainwashing is strong with that one.
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thesometimesaint wrote:
The biggest threats to the family have always been the education of women and economic reality.
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cwald wrote:Lightbearer Wrote:
If your criticism will diminish the loyalty of others to that GA, or undermine his judgment, or discredit his authority then yes we are absolutely morally obligated to hold our peace. I do not care what the subject is, political, social, cultural, moral or religious the authorities have a right to speak out on that subject. The reason they are called General Authorities is because they have a right to speak for the Church--Not you or me.


This Church is not ruled by debate or consensus or is a democracy. The individual members do not dictate to the Lord's servants what a policy or doctrine or practice ought to be. .... As for Elder McConkie, he was an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ just as much a Peter or Paul was and although fallible (as WE all are) he spoke what he knew was true and tried to speculate on some matters in search of an answer. The only errors I recall was in his timing that the priesthood would not be offered to the black race in this life (his opinion) but he did not have to be persuaded of the error, as soon as the Prophet spoke he reversed himself and was in full agreement with the revelation of God. I am sick and tired of people who try to discredit Elder McConkie over this and other supposed errors. Just because he was in error (where no revelation was given) does not mean we can or should reject everything else he said or did because of it. He was never removed from his apostolic office...

Questioning authority should be the American way... political authority, man invented authority! But not God's authority! Not priesthood authority. The Lord has told us how we should respect that authority:

.... The talks in conference are not a buffet of counsel that we can accept if we agree with it or reject if it offends our opinions.

Of course you have the agency to do as you wish, but you have no right to publicly denouce a general authority and then smugly think there should be no consequences. Sonya Johnson discovered that too late. But shouting down general authorities in conference or flying a banner from an airplane that says "Mother in Heaven is for ERA" is not the way to "disagree" with opinions of the Church's leaders.

... To quote a phrase that has become unpopular in this modern 21st century anarchy: "When the Prophet speaks the debate is over!"


http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/60539-signs-of-apostasy-what-are-the-limits-of-dissent-in-the-church/page__st__20

I wonder if Droopy could see any application for that, say with Elder Jensen.

Nah, not likely.
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Wanderer7 Wrote:
How many converts have left family to join the church? God even commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son, and until he was willing to do it, he was not told to stop. God wants our hearts. That's why the first and great commandment is "not love others as yourself" or "honor your Father and your Mother." Yes, those are good things to do, but not over loving God at any cost. That is the price for eternal life, whether we are willing to pay it or not. The price each of us is willing to pay will determine the glory we receive in the life to come. And, ironically enough, only those who are willing to sacrifice everything, including their family, will be able to live with their family for eternity.
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Sounds like the recipe for a jihadist. Now when such a person starts listening to the voices in their head Nephi & Laban results.
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"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby

Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
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BookofMormonLuvr wrote:
If gay kids want to join scouts, let them join the Girl Scouts.

...And if they are homosexual, as they claim, the attention of the ladies won't matter.
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby

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Rob Osborn wrote:
The gadianton robbers are very much alive and well infiltrated into the Mexican government.


http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/60694-conspiracy-theories-and-secret-combinations/page__st__20
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby

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