The problem with black folks...

[_ldsfaqs]

Beastie, you pretty much said only ONE thing even slightly accurate in your post, though parroting liberal propaganda otherwise, and that was that the two sides "polarized".

What you get wrong however is that the Republican party changed. We didn't change at all.
It's the Democrat party that changed, and yes, conservatives have indeed left the Democrat party because it became in toto Communist, Socialist, anti-American.

Watch Zell Miller's speech at the Republican Convention on Youtube.

Further, I would highly recommend you watch a great number of black conservative video's on Youtube. They are in the know of the issues and who we republicans are, you and your liberal liars are not. They would not be with us if we were racists, then OR NOW!

Look at the actual evidence, not propaganda. PEOPLE are the evidence, their testimony, their witness as Conservatives and Republicans. THEY KNOW US.... you do not!

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_ho ... _american/

Liberal self-loathing taken to the extreme.

That said, what civil rights are we talking about? I'd like Ms. Beastie to clarify.

- Doc

[Tator]

Beastie, you pretty much said only ONE thing even slightly accurate in your post, though parroting liberal propaganda otherwise, and that was that the two sides "polarized".

What you get wrong however is that the Republican party changed. We didn't change at all.
It's the Democrat party that changed, and yes, conservatives have indeed left the Democrat party because it became in toto Communist, Socialist, anti-American.

Watch Zell Miller's speech at the Republican Convention on Youtube.

Further, I would highly recommend you watch a great number of black conservative video's on Youtube. They are in the know of the issues and who we republicans are, you and your liberal liars are not. They would not be with us if we were racists, then OR NOW!

Look at the actual evidence, not propaganda. PEOPLE are the evidence, their testimony, their witness as Conservatives and Republicans. THEY KNOW US.... you do not!

The republican party used to be home to liberals and moderates as well as conservatives.

Is that an accurate statement or not?

[_beastie]

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

Liberal self-loathing taken to the extreme.

That said, what civil rights are we talking about? I'd like Ms. Beastie to clarify.

- Doc

I'm talking about the conservative opposition to the civil rights act of 1964.

[_ldsfaqs]

The republican party used to be home to liberals and moderates as well as conservatives.

Is that an accurate statement or not?

No it is not an accurate statement. Both parties have ALWAYS had "some" who were the "minority" of their group, and depending on who's running at the time such as Reagan, we can attract more of the other side such as liberals and moderates. We have always been a Conservative party however.

Listen, I've seen where you get this stuff, liberal revisionist history that try to make them the actual non-racists and us the racists. But, it's not history buddy. I mean come on..... When you guys have to do things like be called Progressive in the early 1900's, and then when it became a bad word you co-opted the word Liberal which the root word is "liber" a.k.a. Libertarian, Freedom, etc. lovers, a.k.a. Conservative values, and then now you want to be called Progressive again because most have now forgotten that history; AND how you call Global Warming is now "Climate Change" etc. etc. just as some obvious examples; when you have to "re-define" words and meanings, change things, you are doing the same otherwise, and you have been.

It's really simple. I'm a Conservative and a Republican. When I CHOSE that side, I researched the history of both sides, past history and current history and people, and the Republicans are EXACTLY the same as they've always been. I know them, I associate with them, I am them. You claim all this bull crap about us from the past and now, and that's all it is, is bull crap.

Which are you going to believe, our testimony, our flesh and blood experience, or your liberal propaganda and revisionist history? Are you going to believe the Black Conservative, many of which are leaders in our community, intellectuals etc., or are you going to believe your liberal propaganda revisionist history? Simple and direct question. The fastest way to the truth is a strait line, to those who know. Propaganda or flesh and blood. Forget what you "personally" think of me and my Mormonism or whatever. I've lived dozens of areas of this county, known all classes and types, from low to high in conservatism and otherwise, and I know racism, and it's almost NEVER seen among us.

Even CNN has admitted that we are much more "diverse" than liberals believe. Despite the false facts and cliques about us and history, he does get the facts right about the #'s. Personally I once thought Colin Powell would be a great "first black President", but that was before he opened his mouth and either was or became so liberal. We don't look at "race" we look at qualifications, intelligence, and character. Liberals are all about the "surface".

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/18/opinion/a ... -diversity

[_ldsfaqs]

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

Liberal self-loathing taken to the extreme.

That said, what civil rights are we talking about? I'd like Ms. Beastie to clarify.

- Doc

I'm talking about the conservative opposition to the civil rights act of 1964.

And as I asked you before, did you even bother to study "why" SOME conservatives were against the Civil Rights act? You believe and claim "racism". But do you remember what I said was the actual reason (and you can look it up yourself)?

[_Droopy]

Blah, blah, blah and, if I may say so myself, blah.

The following is among the best explications of the relationship of early modern conservatism to the early civil rights movement I've found, and contains the nuance, required intellectual background, and intellectual honesty that Beastie et al refuse steadfastly to bring to the table of discussion.

http://www.claremont.org/publications/c ... detail.asp

[_Droopy]

An interesting series of perspectives from the horse's mouth:



http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com ... An_Apology

[_aussieguy55]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/2 ... 58967.html

Interesting interview with Alice Walker , author of Colour Purple

[_beastie]

Blah, blah, blah and, if I may say so myself, blah.

The following is among the best explications of the relationship of early modern conservatism to the early civil rights movement I've found, and contains the nuance, required intellectual background, and intellectual honesty that Beastie et al refuse steadfastly to bring to the table of discussion.

http://www.claremont.org/publications/c ... detail.asp

Oh, for heaven's sake. I CITED THAT ARTICLE MYSELF TO YOU EARLIER ON THIS THREAD. I quoted heavily from it!!!!

viewtopic.php?p=702847#p702847

Now I have proof positive you don't even bother to read people's responses to you. If you had an ounce of intellectual integrity you'd be embarrassed.