Boston Bombers: Liberal Hopes Dashed

[_ludwigm]

True, but it's like with calling America a "Democracy", and it's values Democratic. While it is to a point, we all know it's a Republic and not a Democracy.

"Democracy" ?

1. You don't know the definition of that principle. From this point on I shouldn't write more...

2. United States is the 19th one on the list of Democracy Index.
After Ireland, Czech Republic (warning!!! not Chechnya!!!), Uruguay.
A little before Costa Rica...

1. Norway
2. Iceland
3. Denmark
4. Sweden
5. New Zealand
6. Australia
7. Switzerland
8. Canada
9. Finland
10. Netherlands
11. Luxembourg
12. Ireland
13. Austria
14. Germany
15. Malta
16. Czech Republic
17. Uruguay
18. United Kingdom
19. United States
20. Costa Rica
21. Japan
22. South Korea
23. Belgium
24. Mauritius
25. Spain

A few year, and US reaches the next category, Flawed democracy.

3. FYI

Many forms of Government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

(c) Winston Churchill.

4. You don't know the definition of that principle, the Democracy.
(I repeated it - I don't know if You read only the beginning or the ending of other's comment)

[_ldsfaqs]

What in the WORLD are you blabbering about Ludwigm....?

Did you even read what I wrote? I know it's not a Democracy.
Further, do you even know the "standards" that study used to judge what is and isn't a democracy? Basically if you're socialist/communist more than capitalist you're considered more a Democracy. Which is actually true because a Democracy is actually mob rule, which is what socialism/communism is, the "collective" good.

[_ludwigm]

FYI, ldsfag

Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Democracy allows eligible citizens to participate equally—either directly or through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. It encompasses social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.

[_ludwigm]

Socialism, communism, more ideas You don't know.

[_subgenius]

...(snip)...While it is to a point, we all know it's a Republic and not a Democracy.

geez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_republic
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

The term democracy does not appear in the DoI or the Constitution....

The term republic does not appear in the Declaration of Independence, but does appear in Article IV of the Constitution which "guarantee[s] to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government." What exactly the writers of the constitution felt this should mean is uncertain. The Supreme Court, in Luther v. Borden (1849), declared that the definition of republic was a "political question" in which it would not intervene. In two later cases, it did establish a basic definition. In United States v. Cruikshank (1875), the court ruled that the "equal rights of citizens" were inherent to the idea of a republic.

Ironically, pay attention to those who promote the idea that we are a "democracy" in that true sense...their motive is likely to transform our constitutional republic into a socialist democracy.

"No party has a monopoly on wisdom. No democracy works without compromise. I want to get this done and we should get it done. But when Gov. Romney and his friends in Congress tell us we can somehow lower our deficit by spending trillions more on new tax breaks for the wealthy. Well. What did Bill Clinton call it? You do the arithmetic. You do the math. I refuse to go along with that. And as long as I'm president, I never will." - Obama (emphasis mine)

Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns in to universal, rather than religion-specific, values... it requires that their proposals be subject to argument and amenable to reason. -Obama (emphasis mine)

This democracy we have is a precious thing. -Obama (emphasis mine)

Democracy in a nation of 300 million can be noisy and messy and complicated.....The role of citizens in our Democracy does not end with your vote -Obama (emphasis mine)

etc..

The Framers of the Constitution went to great lengths to ensure that the federal government was not based on the will of the majority and was not, therefore, democratic.

[_bcspace]

Obviously Dina isn't aware that Hitler was a Socialist. She should check out the 25 point program of the Nazi party. Chris should brush up on Jim Jones, the Weather Underground, Black Panthers, etc.

[_Tarski]

....

David Axelrod noticed it was tax day.
What a crime! LOL
Just about everyone else not brain dead noticed that too. I am willling to bet you also mentioned it in conversation on that day. Thus you are disingenuous in the extreme.

Your thinking is cartoonical as is your reading (just look at what you posted--are you in high school?) Why can't you make just one thoughtful post...ever? Are you really that low-watt?

[_Res Ipsa]

Since when did "republic" and "democracy" become mutually exclusive terms? We have a democratic republic. If the majority is big enough, we can even change the constitution. The notion that the framers somehow rejected "democracy" is nonsense.

[_Res Ipsa]

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David Axelrod noticed it was tax day.
What a crime! LOL
Just about everyone else not brain dead noticed that too. I am willling to bet you also mentioned it in conversation on that day. Thus you are disingenuous in the extreme.

Your thinking is cartoonical as is your reading (just look at what you posted--are you in high school?) Why can't you make just one thoughtful post...ever? Are you really that low-watt?

At the time of the bombings, every talking head speculated on every possible motivation for the bombings. bcspace just cherry picked ones that reinforced his personal political delusions. Not like he hasn't done that before.

[_Bret Ripley]

Obviously Dina isn't aware that Hitler was a Socialist.

A goodly portion of French Resistance participants were Socialist. Boy, I bet they were embarrassed when they found out they were fighting on the wrong side!