'Do You Believe in Dinosaurs?'

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Re: 'Do You Believe in Dinosaurs?'

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Believe in dinosaurs? We sustain them with the uplift of hands.
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Re: 'Do You Believe in Dinosaurs?'

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moksha wrote:Believe in dinosaurs? We sustain them with the uplift of hands.
Against?
- - - - - - - - none
Neutral?
- - - - - - - - none

100 % agreed, as in every socialist democracy.

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I wrote:
What countries or places do you have supposed votes where the proposition is always passed with 99.99 percent of the vote?

The communist/socialist countries, in the 50s, 60s, 70s...

I know, I lived here, in Hungary.
I've made parallels in my comments, many times. Nobody believed.

To understand that environment, one have to live in. Tourists, reporters - who leave after a few days - can not grab it.

It was not 99.99%. It was between 99.96 and 99.98. The remaining 0.02-0.04% were not against, they were invalid. There were no place on the paper to vote against. One should have draw a dick in the middle, to make it a bad voting paper. I am not joking, that was the routine. (I took part in Counting Committee...)

Sometimes - rarely - the rate was under 99.95%. That was the message to the leadership: that man should be shuffled out of sight. Next year, that man became ambassador in Togo.
Or in Burkina Faso. You know, that name is a composite of local languages and is roughly translated as "the land of incorruptible men."

Our highest leaders were never pensioned. There were two way out for them. The coffin or - sometimes - the trapdoor.

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How could have we survived? With jokes...
Radio Yerevan:
- The Armenian Radio was asked: "Is it true that in Moscow, Mercedes cars are being given to citizens?"
- The Armenian Radio answers: "Yes, but it is not Moscow but Leningrad, not Mercedes but Ladas, and not given to but stolen from." (This was even funnier in the Hungarian version where the main pun was the similarity of the words osztogatnak "they give them away" and fosztogatnak "they rob them".)

or

Q: Why some people say that Hungarians love the Russians and hate the Americans?
A: Because Russians helped Hungarians to get rid of one totalitarian rule, but Americans don't help to get rid of the other.

Q: Is it possible to build socialism in Switzerland?
A: It's possible, but why? Did Switzerland really do something wrong to you?
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Re: 'Do You Believe in Dinosaurs?'

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bcspace wrote:
I can handle that in the case of the first Gods. But I can also handle that now, intelligence controls evolution.

First Gods?
If you could only hear what you sound like to normal noncultists.

I wonder, if evolution, unguided and alone, could work to produce the first Gods (chuckle) then why was it needed for the latter Gods? Were the first Gods disadvantaged?
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Re: 'Do You Believe in Dinosaurs?'

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cinepro wrote:
subgenius wrote:Once again, we see atheists seeing things that are really not there.... the inevitable consequence of being gullible and desperate.


But aren't the atheists responding to a picture of test, which is something that is "there"? Sure, it might be a fake, but even the best theists can be fooled by fakes.

yet atheists so often parade around that they do not accept anything "on faith" - because that is a sign of being a gullible and desperate theist. Atheists rely on empirical evidence and skepticism...unless it is something so tantalizing to and reaffirming of their own faith.
This is a criticism not typically levied on an atheist from a theist, but is almost always relied upon by the atheist.
So, yes anyone can be fooled...but some people (atheists) are more susceptible, imho. This being example of how desperate they are to have "evidence" of the alleged stupidity of theism. For some reason, atheists are desperate to have others consider them as the "smart" choice, against all evidence.
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