My First Rifle = My First Homicide

[_Quasimodo]

Ultimately, this is a situation with terrifically bad parental judgement, which will always be a problem. We can't outlaw stupidity.

We can try to minimize it by not allowing young minors to own and shoot guns. The stupidity of these parents will haunt them for the rest of their lives (at least I hope so). The young boy will no doubt live with guilt forever.

If one really needs to give guns to young children, they should look like this:

[_Bond James Bond]

Currently hunting licenses are not sold to children in KY who are younger than 12. Perhaps kids should not be allowed to possess or shoot guns until age 12.

[_ldsfaqs]

Should we ban kids also under 12 from riding motor bikes, etc.?

The solution is not "banning", the solution is proper education. But, still, even that's not a guarantee, people are still going to be stupid, just like those who think we need to ban guns, when the tool is not the problem.

by the way folks, a gun IS in fact a "tool". There are all kinds and types of tools.
And yes, plenty of kids have had their limbs cut off or killed by "standard" tools.

I knew a parent who killed is kid with a driving farm tool. The kid wandered in his blind spot and got chopped up. Should we ban farm tools? Or do accidents happen? Of course, the above story was pure negligence, not only an accident. I've almost never seen a negligent firearms owner. Thus, you ban guns for negligence, you should ban other things because people can be negligent, people who especially don't take their freedoms and privileges seriously, such as driving a car.

[_Quasimodo]

Should we ban kids also under 12 from riding motor bikes, etc.?

Absolutely! Are you nuts?

The solution is not "banning", the solution is proper education. But, still, even that's not a guarantee, people are still going to be stupid, just like those who think we need to ban guns, when the tool is not the problem.

The tool is not the problem. Stupidity is the problem. No one is talking about banning guns. Just stupid guns that are only designed to kill people.

by the way folks, a gun IS in fact a "tool". There are all kinds and types of tools.
And yes, plenty of kids have had their limbs cut off or killed by "standard" tools.

So, you are saying that an assault rifle is good for plowing fields?

I knew a parent who killed is kid with a driving farm tool. The kid wandered in his blind spot and got chopped up. Should we ban farm tools? Or do accidents happen? Of course, the above story was pure negligence, not only an accident. I've almost never seen a negligent firearms owner. Thus, you ban guns for negligence, you should ban other things because people can be negligent, people who especially don't take their freedoms and privileges seriously, such as driving a car.

Sorry about those people that lost a child to farm equipment. Accidents do happen. How many fewer deaths would occur if no one had assault rifles?

[_ludwigm]

Should we ban kids also under 12 from riding motor bikes, etc.?

Absolutely!

Absolutely not!

If You rich enough to own a stable of 18 cars worth an estimated $4 million, then the cars must be used.
When your boy only 5, he may drive the Lamborghini and Bentley and other cars.

On his ninth birthday, after he was insisting for months, you should allow him to drive the Ferrari. As he is a cautious and confident driver.

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Don't stint the 7 yo kid of the privilege to use chainsaw. It is a tool only.

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

Should we ban kids also under 12 from riding motor bikes, etc.?

The solution is not "banning", the solution is proper education. But, still, even that's not a guarantee, people are still going to be stupid, just like those who think we need to ban guns, when the tool is not the problem.

You don't have any children. If I'm wrong I pray for their safety since you think you can really teach a five year old to be a responsible gun owner.

[_ldsfaqs]

Should we ban kids also under 12 from riding motor bikes, etc.?

Absolutely! Are you nuts?

As often is with liberals, I'm talking to people who have no "physical" capability whatsoever, thus having no intellectual clue or baseline to even have a discussion with.

Are you really telling me you've never known or seen family's, friends etc. who owned motorcycles under the age to 12? That you or they never went out riding in the mountains or dunes etc.?

Utterly ignorant, and you desire to force your ignorance on others.

The tool is not the problem. Stupidity is the problem. No one is talking about banning guns. Just stupid guns that are only designed to kill people.

Heavens, am I talking with the mentally challenged?
Every single gun is "designed to kill".
And what exactly are "stupid guns"?

So, you are saying that an assault rifle is good for plowing fields?

And what in your mind is an "assault rifle"? You do know that actual "assault rifles" have been banned for about a 100 years already almost everywhere??? You do know that functionally speaking the so-called "assault rifles" you are wanting to ban don't function any differently than any other handgun or any other rifle?

Further, if you read what I said with any comprehension, a firearm is a tool like any other tool that is designed for a particular function. Yes, a firearm is designed to kill. That is it's function.

Sorry about those people that lost a child to farm equipment. Accidents do happen. How many fewer deaths would occur if no one had assault rifles?

In both Australia and the UK, two of the left's poster children for Gun Control the net result is ZERO fewer deaths..... In fact, violent assault, rapes, robbery etc. has also drastically risen. When people want to kill people, they do.... All you do by taking away guns is making the people victims.....

Further, are you also taking the guns away from the Government? If not, then you commit mass murder. Because that is the result of people being disarmed when evil people get in power..... or when bad guys come a knocking!

Watch this and start learning..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc

[_ldsfaqs]

Should we ban kids also under 12 from riding motor bikes, etc.?

The solution is not "banning", the solution is proper education. But, still, even that's not a guarantee, people are still going to be stupid, just like those who think we need to ban guns, when the tool is not the problem.

You don't have any children. If I'm wrong I pray for their safety since you think you can really teach a five year old to be a responsible gun owner.

This first thing that goes with leftists and anti-mormons is common sense as well as they have to lie in order to make their points, creating strawmen that they then attack.

Who said ANYTHING about teaching a 5 year old how to be an "independent" responsible gun owner?
If you had read my very first post, I directly condemned the parents for allowing the child to have a gun at that age without proper supervision.

And my children, they are wonderfully safe (save from the actions of their mother).
They are well taught gun safety, and are fully monitored even with BB guns.
Though sadly we've lived in city's and so haven't been able to enjoy the full training I had when young.

[_Brackite]

If one really needs to give guns to young children, they should look like this:

I loved water guns when I was a kid.

[_ldsfaqs]

I loved water guns when I was a kid.

They were okay.... But my favorite was those guns that shot the half-inch round disks.
I loved those guns, at least until liberals banned them.