Dr. Shades wrote:Did Joseph Smith, Jr. engage in sexual intercourse with one or more women other than his legal wife Emma?
A. Yes B. No
Having lots of sex was the business of the first Presidents of the Mormon church. It was their sacred duty to have sex with as many women as they could. Just look at Brigham Young. He took the virtue from many women as he lived like a king eating off the fat of the people. Mormon church Presidents are the scum of the earth. They eat deliciously and lie to the people in the name of the Lord. Church Presidents have lips that flatter and love to wear suits and ties in front of the people as if it makes them look more important. But inwardly they have closed minds and their revelations are their own pretended thoughts as they try to sort good feelings from bad feelings and convince the people they are prophets, seers, revelators, translators, and so forth.
Droopy wrote:Joseph Smith the lecher? Show me the evidence. Where are the living descendent's of anyone but Emma? Where is the documentary data? Where are the facts?
Did Joseph Smith, Jr. engage in sexual intercourse with one or more women other than his legal wife Emma?
A. Yes B. No
According to D&C 132 the answer had better be 'A', else Joseph was guilty of ignoring a specific and direct instruction from God.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
On this page is a list of the wives and their names link to the relevant evidence they had sex with Joseph Smith. Some of which includes transcripts of firsthand testimony of the women in the temple lot case. He considers nine likely and five potential candidates.
As noted by Brain, Joseph opportunities were severely limited due to the fact that he was trying to do much of this without the permission/knowledge of Emma.
Examples
Testimony from Melissa Lot
Q. There was not any children born to you by Joseph Smith? A. No Sir. Q. Have you ever borne any children since that time? A. Yes sir, I have... Q. State now the reason why you never bore any children by Joseph Smith? A. Well that is something impossible to do, - that is something I can’t tell.... Q. ...Now you said there were no children born of that marriage [to Joseph Smith]? A. I said I had none. Q. You had none by Joseph Smith? A. Yes sir, and you asked me why I hadn’t any and I told you I couldn’t tell you, that you would have to go to some higher authority than I to tell you that… Q. Did you ever room with Joseph Smith as his wife? A. Yes sir.
Edited to Add: In my thinking I regard this as the least possible number of sexual partners. Much of this evidence is a result of the conflict with Joseph Smith III and the RLDS church. Without it the evidence may have been very scarce indeed. I consider it very likely that Joseph Smith consummated marriages with women for which we now have no evidence.
So no children means Joseph Smith was pure as the driven snow. Wouldn't that same line of 'reasoning' apply to others also?
Where are the children out of wedlock of J.C. Bennett, Nancy Rigdon, Sarah Pratt, and Martha Brotherton?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Fence Sitter wrote:So no children means Joseph Smith was pure as the driven snow. Wouldn't that same line of 'reasoning' apply to others also?
Where are the children out of wedlock of J.C. Bennett, Nancy Rigdon, Sarah Pratt, and Martha Brotherton?
Fence... you hafta stop making sense. Someone's gonna notice and then where will you be?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Fence Sitter wrote:So no children means Joseph Smith was pure as the driven snow. Wouldn't that same line of 'reasoning' apply to others also?
Where are the children out of wedlock of J.C. Bennett, Nancy Rigdon, Sarah Pratt, and Martha Brotherton?
It all makes sense once you accept that there's a double standard in Mormonism for its higher up leaders than for its rank-and-file membership and lower leaders.
Fence Sitter wrote:So no children means Joseph Smith was pure as the driven snow. Wouldn't that same line of 'reasoning' apply to others also?
Where are the children out of wedlock of J.C. Bennett, Nancy Rigdon, Sarah Pratt, and Martha Brotherton?
I love bcspace's (il)logic. Joseph Smith didn't have kids (that we know of) from his (at least) 33 affairs, so he must not have been a horndog. Freddie Mercury had no children. I guess Smith was as much a horndog as Freddie Mercury, using bcspace's logic.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Fence Sitter wrote:So no children means Joseph Smith was pure as the driven snow. Wouldn't that same line of 'reasoning' apply to others also?
Where are the children out of wedlock of J.C. Bennett, Nancy Rigdon, Sarah Pratt, and Martha Brotherton?
I love bcspace's (il)logic. Joseph Smith didn't have kids (that we know of) from his (at least) 33 affairs, so he must not have been a horndog. Freddie Mercury had no children. I guess Smith was as much a horndog as Freddie Mercury, using bcspace's logic.
Except there is no evidence that Joseph ever had a single "affair."
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