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8 Reasons Allen West Is The Perfect Fox News Contributor

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1. West Is A Former Republican Official


And?

2. West Compares His Opponents To Nazis

West told reporters in December 2011: "If Joseph Goebbels was around, he'd be very proud of the Democrat Party, because they have an incredible propaganda machine ... Let's be honest, you know, some of the people in the media are complicit with this and enabling them to get that type of message out."


1. He could have said Molotov, but Goebbles will do, given the present state of that party.

2. Democrats, and the cultural Left generally speaking, have been comparing virtually everyone who disagrees with them as Nazis and the catch-all "fascists" for generations. Pot, let me introduce you to...

Fox News chairman Roger Ailes once responded to NPR firing analyst Juan Williams by claiming of NPR executives: "They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism." (Ailes later apologized.)


Its called "political correctness," and yes, its been utilized by leftists, of whom Nazis are/were a major sect, for a very long time.

3. West Claimed Dozens Of Democrats Are Communists

West has (falsely) accused roughly 80 Democratic House members of being "members of the Communist Party. ... It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus."


Given that the term "communism" is a purely theoretical state that has never existed, and that "socialism" which is what Marx believed in and taught all his life, and what countless of his disciples, in various schools and interpretations of his thought, have continued to teach, lies, with other core ideological premises, at the base of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the Progressive Caucus of Congress, which is a initiative of the DSA and a major ideological force within the Democratic Party among its leading members (http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm ... ntree=2,71) on the progressive Left, and given that these people can and should be described, based on a long history of of support for key issues and statements of ideological fealty, depending upon perspective and issue, as socialists, neo-Marxists, cultural Marxists, and neo-communists, West is right on in his descriptions.


Fox News has frequently linked Democrats, and especially President Obama, to communists.


And rightly so. Media Matters is fighting against common knowledge and settled fact here again, as usual (and the modern Democratic Party has long been a home to sundry fellow travelers in the traditional sense).

Fox News host Eric Bolling referred to a speech by President Obama as a "communist, socialist manifesto." Glenn Beck's late Fox News program depicted the 2010 election as a choice between freedom and communism. And during the 2008 presidential election, Fox News, led by then-Washington deputy managing editor Bill Sammon, linked Obama to socialism, Marxism, or Communism at least 35 times on air.


Yes, but this is because all of this is true, and demonstrably so.


4. West Has A History Of Anti-Islam Comments

West has claimed that "Islam is a totalitarian theocratic political ideology, it is not a religion. It has not been a religion since 622 AD, and we need to have individuals stand up and say that." He attacked Rep. Keith Ellison, who is Muslim, as representing "the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was established."


Islam cannot be understood, from within its own doctrinal precincts, as a religion, without identifying it with a political order that is a integral aspect of its religious self-concept. In this sense, West is right.

Keith Ellison is an anti-American totalitarian leftist with close ties to the Nation of Islam, CAIR, and other radical anti-American, anti-Western entities, including communist front/apologetic organizations (such as the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists and the National Lawyer's Guild). He is also a member of the socialist Progressive Caucus of Congress and the racialist Congressional Black Caucus. This is only a smattering of Ellison's radical leftist bonafides, and no wonder Media Matters is whining over him as some kind of victim of the horrible Allen West.

Fox News likewise has a long history of bashing Islam. Fox News host Brian Kilmeade claimed that "all terrorists are Muslims," and Bill O'Reilly said "Muslims killed us on 9-11" and "there's no question there is a Muslim problem in the world." Fox News chairman Roger Ailes also has reportedly demonstrated a strong aversion to Muslims.


This is a clinic on how leftist lie through there teeth in an effort to smear those whom they cannot defeat in debate. What Kilmeade actually said was, "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.” Now that's clearly a false statement, and obviously so, but by excising the first phrase, a completely different meaning is created. This is, indeed, not only how leftists have operated since 1917, but how anti-Mormons have worked their black magic since the 19th century.

5. West Invokes Slavery To Bash Democrats And Their "Plantation"

West has claimed that Democrats are keeping black voters on a "plantation."


Yup, symbolically and effectually, that's the situation we've been in for decades.

He also said that "the Democratic appetite for ever-increasing redistributionary handouts is in fact the most insidious form of slavery remaining in the world today" and President Obama would "rather you be his slave."


Excellent observation. No wonder Media Matters doesn't like it. It destroys, as the Book of Mormon would say, "there craft."

Fox News has similarly used slavery rhetoric to attack Democrats. Fox News contributor Keith Ablow claimed tea partiers are like "slaves" ready to revolt; Fox News host and senior vice president Neil Cavuto likened government aid for the needy to being "enslaved to the government"; and Fox & Friends ran a segment about how the "government is enslaving people." Former Fox News host Glenn Beck was perhaps the most persistent figure to invoke slavery to attack President Obama and progressives.


Great stuff - unless you're one of the low information voters who thinks Media Matters is a place to get serious political analysis.

6. West Lobs Sexist Attacks

West has criticized liberal women for "neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness." He also drew criticism for comments about Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) in which he wrote to her, "You have proven repeatedly that you are not a Lady, therefore, shall not be afforded due respect from me!"


Good stuff. Go West, go!

Fox News similarly has a history of demeaning feminists,


Good for them.

and using sexist rhetoric against Democratic politicians.


Oh, there's one of those many "ists" leftists like to pull out when their out of intellectual ammunition and know their on the philosophical ropes. Media Matters is preaching to the choir here, not the average American voter.

7. West Pushes Anti-Immigrant Hysteria.


No such thing. Again, preaching to a choir willing to absorb this kind of anti-conservative hysteria.

Like most leftists, Kevin is like a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest. No matter what he says or what he defends, he always lands in (or, shall I say on) the same place.
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And?


So you admit FOX News is just a media arm for the Republican party.

Funny, FOX tries to convince us every week that they are objective, fair and balanced, etc.

And I doubt anyone is surprised that you think West is a swell guy for his idiotic antics. He's your kind of people for sure.
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Fox IS Fair and Balanced.... They present both sides.
Just because their "focus" is more conservative, doesn't mean it's not Fair and Balanced.
In contrast, CNN "focus" is more liberal, however they take it further to where it's not balanced and even worse is MSNBC.

As to Allen West, why don't you contend against the FACTS that Droopy presented (and much more out there) that entirely debunks your "8 Reasons", instead of demonizing someone without facts???

Everything Droopy stated above is factual and backed up by the facts. Your ignorance and bigotry is not facts against someone and for something else.

Allen West is one of the "few" greatest American's and wisest men of this country in this day and age. If you actually knew the man instead of believing cherry picked slander by liberals you would understand that. Of course, maybe you're just too far to the dark side to even care or see?
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Fox IS Fair and Balanced.... They present both sides.


No, they present the lying Republican side 90+% of the time while misrepresenting the other side 10%, or cutting off whatever soft spoken Democrat they allowed to speak on their shows.

Just because their "focus" is more conservative, doesn't mean it's not Fair and Balanced.


It isn't "conservative." It is conspiratorial and based on pseudo-journalism. Their only consistency is that they're willing to run with any "story" that portrays Obama as the devil, or at least has that potential. Anything else is ignored or downplayed. At this point in FOX's evolution, only true morons would consider it "fair and balanced."

In contrast, CNN "focus" is more liberal, however they take it further to where it's not balanced and even worse is MSNBC.


This stupid notion has been refuted so many times, it is amazing anyone with a brain can keep saying it. You've obviously never watched CNN or MSNBC. Right this second I watching CNN and MSNBC grilling Obama over the same thing EA takes issue with. Just because they don't naïvely swallow the idiotic scandal-mongering created by FOX and Droopy's favorite bloggers, only proves they have a bias for common sense and the truth.

As to Allen West, why don't you contend against the FACTS that Droopy presented (and much more out there) that entirely debunks your "8 Reasons", instead of demonizing someone without facts???


Droop agreed with what article said about West. As it said, Droops agreed he'd be a great FOX contributor. So what the hell are you talking about? He didn't present any "facts" that "debunked" anything that article said. It highlighted some of the dumb things West has said and done and Droopy of course loves him for it.

Everything Droopy stated above is factual and backed up by the facts. Your ignorance and bigotry is not facts against someone and for something else.


You wouldn't know since you obviously didn't read Droopy's post. Which is unfortunate for Droopy, since he is clearly relying on the low-information kool-aide drinkers to actually read his drivel these days. No one else can endure his posts.

Allen West is one of the "few" greatest American's and wisest men of this country in this day and age. If you actually knew the man instead of believing cherry picked slander by liberals you would understand that. Of course, maybe you're just too far to the dark side to even care or see?


Allen West is a moron and a jackass, and it doesn't surprise anyone that FOX would hire him or that he would be adored by low-information idiots like you and Droops.
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In contrast, CNN "focus" is more liberal, however they take it further to where it's not balanced and even worse is MSNBC.


CNN and MSNBC are quite very different cable news channels from each other.

CNN, which has branded itself around reporting resources and reach, cut back between 2007 and 2012 on two areas tied to that brand—in-depth story packages and live event coverage. Even so, CNN is the only one of the three big cable news channels to produce more straight reporting than commentary over all. At the other end of that spectrum lies MSNBC, where opinion fills a full 85% of the channel’s airtime.1

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A separate analysis of cable in late 2012 finds that, over all, commentary and opinion are far more prevalent on the air throughout the day (63% of the airtime) than straight news reporting (37%). CNN is the only channel to offer more reporting (54%) than opinion (46%), though by a small margin. By far the highest percentage of opinion and commentary is on MSNBC (85% to 15% reporting). Fox was in between at 55% commentary and 45% reporting.

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A separate Pew Research examination of programming in December 2012 found MSNBC by far the most opinionated of the three networks, with nearly 90% of its primetime coverage coming in the form of opinion or commentary. And that remains the case with many of its packaged segments. Host Rachel Maddow, for example, often begins her show with a lengthy segment combining a monologue with video clips that can last for seven minutes or longer.


Link: http://stateofthemedia.org/2013/special ... landscape/




No, they present the lying Republican side 90+% of the time while misrepresenting the other side 10%, or cutting off whatever soft spoken Democrat they allowed to speak on their shows.


That opinion is Not supported by the facts as presented above here.
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That opinion is Not supported by the facts as presented above here.


It isn't opinion it is established fact.

The methodology of that pew study is a complete mess. Just check the first footnote and it tells you how it decided what counts as opinion and what doesn't:

"An individual story was considered commentary or opinion if 25% of the time if that story included opinionated statements. Otherwise, the story was coded for being a factual reported piece."

WTF?

So a hard factual show of one hour is considered "factual reporting" so long as commentary about it is limited to 14 minutes and 59 seconds. But as soon as the Pew judges, with their stop watches, decide the commentary breaches that point, suddenly a highly informative show based on facts becomes nothing more than "opinion."

Give me a break.

And who are the folks at Pew who get to decide what counts as "factual news" and "opinion?" Apparently, there is no criterion for deciding what's factual and what's not factual; only for what's opinion and what's not opinion. If it isn't opinion, they just call it "factual reporting"?

Thus, the bulk of FOX News mantra would be considered "factual reporting" by Pew so long as they present it as factual and not opinion (i.e. "FOX News Alert!!! According to reports, President Obama dismissed the Benghazi deaths as irrelevant!").

Get real Brackite. Why don't you stop making a science out of this and do what every reasonable, intelligent persons should do on his own. Just sit down and watch FOX for about a week, and then do the same for each other News station. Jot down each claim that seems suspect, and then check to verify who got more things wrong or right.

FOX News is making a complete ass of themselves and they do this on a weekly basis. I've provided dozens of examples which show they should not be allowed to legally call themselves News. Even still, after the Benghazi emails prove their nine months of conspiracy theorist, scandal-mongering was all just a bunch of nonsense, they're still reporting on things as factual when they've already been adequately debunked.

They have no standards when it comes to accurate reporting, and Pew doesn't even pretend to address this issue. That they would call anything that didn't appear to their subjective judgment as opinion, to be nothing less than "factual reporting," is pretty crazy on its face.

MSNBC's reporting is infinitely better than FOX's. I can sit here for hours posting things FOX got wrong, and continues to get wrong, and refuses to be held accountable for deceiving the public. And I can refute their "news" by going directly to the relevant sources. Can you do the same with MSNBC? No. This isn't to say they are perfect. But the rate at which they engage in these blatant errors is infinitesimal when compared to FOX. And just because Rachel Maddow decided to provide more than 15 minutes of commentary on her show, which is based on hard factual data, doesn't make her entire show "opinion."
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Kevin Graham wrote:
And?


So you admit FOX News is just a media arm for the Republican party.


No, I admit Allen West was once a former Republican official.

Funny, FOX tries to convince us every week that they are objective, fair and balanced, etc.


Compared to the rest of the mainstream media, the're pristine.

And I doubt anyone is surprised that you think West is a swell guy for his idiotic antics. He's your kind of people for sure.


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Kevin Graham wrote:Image
It isn't opinion it is established fact.




The methodology of that pew study is a complete mess. Just check the first footnote and it tells you how it decided what counts as opinion and what doesn't:

"An individual story was considered commentary or opinion if 25% of the time if that story included opinionated statements. Otherwise, the story was coded for being a factual reported piece."

WTF?

So a hard factual show of one hour is considered "factual reporting" so long as commentary about it is limited to 14 minutes and 59 seconds. But as soon as the Pew judges, with their stop watches, decide the commentary breaches that point, suddenly a highly informative show based on facts becomes nothing more than "opinion."

Give me a break.

And who are the folks at Pew who get to decide what counts as "factual news" and "opinion?" Apparently, there is no criterion for deciding what's factual and what's not factual; only for what's opinion and what's not opinion. If it isn't opinion, they just call it "factual reporting"?

Thus, the bulk of FOX News mantra would be considered "factual reporting" by Pew so long as they present it as factual and not opinion (i.e. "FOX News Alert!!! According to reports, President Obama dismissed the Benghazi deaths as irrelevant!").

Get real Brackite. Why don't you stop making a science out of this and do what every reasonable, intelligent persons should do on his own. Just sit down and watch FOX for about a week, and then do the same for each other News station. Jot down each claim that seems suspect, and then check to verify who got more things wrong or right.

FOX News is making a complete ass of themselves and they do this on a weekly basis. I've provided dozens of examples which show they should not be allowed to legally call themselves News. Even still, after the Benghazi emails prove their nine months of conspiracy theorist, scandal-mongering was all just a bunch of nonsense, they're still reporting on things as factual when they've already been adequately debunked.

They have no standards when it comes to accurate reporting, and Pew doesn't even pretend to address this issue. That they would call anything that didn't appear to their subjective judgment as opinion, to be nothing less than "factual reporting," is pretty crazy on its face.

MSNBC's reporting is infinitely better than FOX's. I can sit here for hours posting things FOX got wrong, and continues to get wrong, and refuses to be held accountable for deceiving the public. And I can refute their "news" by going directly to the relevant sources. Can you do the same with MSNBC? No. This isn't to say they are perfect. But the rate at which they engage in these blatant errors is infinitesimal when compared to FOX. And just because Rachel Maddow decided to provide more than 15 minutes of commentary on her show, which is based on hard factual data, doesn't make her entire show "opinion."
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No, I admit Allen West was once a former Republican official.


I guess I forgot how short your attention span really is. The context of this thread deals with how well of a FOX employee Allen would be. The fact that he is a Republican makes him well qualified because FOX is essentially an employment station for struggling or failed Republicans looking for work while working their way down the career ladder.
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