Drones Tanks, we have no chance.... What liberals say.

[_ldsfaqs]

Just to be sure I understand the point, ldsfaqs wants to be well armed so that he can literally go to war against US government officials and the people who support them because the government is being fascist by taking away his Big Gulps.

You don't understand the point at all....

I was pointing out fascism, the slow creep of it.
No, I'm not going to go to "war" with "guns" SIMPLY because of Big Gulps, but the fact is, that at some point liberals and their fascism are going to go to far, and Freedom is going to have to be refreshed by the blood of tyrants and patriots. And this wasn't my point, but you are asking the question and so I'm making it.

At the risk of putting myself in the crosshairs of the people who want to kill fascists, I'll state that this thread proves some people really shouldn't have guns.

And you only prove the fascist you are, showing EXACTLY why freedom loving people need their guns to stop scum of the earth like you.

I was watching Glenn Becks NRA convention presentation today, and he made a great quote.
Even GOD HIMSELF doesn't try to dictate against Man's freedom's, but Liberals think they're the "smart" ones and have to. Liberals are satan's servants on earth. You mock, you deride, but the truth of who you are is self-evident by your actions and beliefs.

So, belittle me all you want.... I will kill anyone trying to take away my right to LIFE!!!

[_krose]

"Big Gulp" is normative society nomenclature when referring to many "large" soda drinks, even when they are not actually "the" Big Gulp. My point was valid, period.

Thank you for enlightening me further with your impressive grasp of facts and history. I can only jealously covet your brilliance and insight, including the use of so many big words that are quite hard for me to understand, such as "normative society nomenclature."

I blame my own lack of education and intelligence for my many embarrassing mistakes. I admit that I stupidly assumed (as one of our great American heroes, Mr. Limbaugh, famously says) that words have meaning. I apologize for mistakenly thinking that trademarked product names refer only to those actual products, and not to all the competitors' products as well. All large drinks are Big Gulps. Golly, I wish I had known. I am such an ignoramus when it comes to the ways of smart people. Perhaps, by way of apology, I could buy you a "Big Mac" at my local "Arctic Circle."

But now you have convinced me that banning products and services is an entirely fascist thing to do. Did you know that those New York liberals have also banned marijuana, crystal meth and prostitution? Fascists! I'm sure you will agree this is just un-American, and will join me in the crusade to reverse these unfair limits on our rights. Stop the fascist product bans now! Faqs and I demand our meth and our hookers! Freedom! Freedom! Freedom!

[_krose]

Tell us also how Bloomberg banning "salt" also in certain amounts isn't fascist?

How can I tell you something that is so obviously not true? I completely agree. Not only is banning "salt" totally fascist, but so is banning salt.

And just look at how that crafty fascist did it:

A Kraft American cheese single has 18 percent less salt than it did three years ago. The salt in a dollop of Ragu Old World Style pasta sauce is down by 20 percent. A handful of honey Teddy Grahams has 33 percent less salt. A squirt of Heinz ketchup is 15 percent less salty.

Their manufacturers are among 21 companies that have met targets so far in a voluntary, New York City-led effort to get food manufacturers and restaurateurs to lighten up on salt to improve Americans' heart health, Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced Monday.

The bully mayor used the most basic fascist tool of "encouraging" food vendors and makers to "voluntarily" reduce the salt in their products. Mussolini and Hitler combined could not have pulled off a bigger fascist accomplishment.

What's more, there isn't a thing New Yorkers can do to force these companies to put the beneficial and nutritious salt back into their products, because not one of them is allowed to own a gun, since their fascist mayor has banned them, making it completely illegal to possess a firearm. Did I get that right, sir?

[_ldsfaqs]

Ya, it's just my "imagination" that New York voters voted TWICE putting in Term Limits, and Bloomberg like the Fascist he is simply removed them, so now he's in his 3rd term.

Ya, it's just my imagination that he's banned Styrofoam cups.

Ya, it's just my imagination that Bloomberg banned food donations to Homeless Shelters.

Ya, it's just my imagination that he banned artificial trans-fats from being used.

Ya, it's just my imagination that he almost banned soda from being purchased with food stamps.

Ya, it's just my imagination to instituted a soda tax.

And ya, "pressure" from the Government to change your product reducing the salt or you're going to PAY isn't Fascism.

Ya, no Fascism here..... just move along.

One other thing.....

Your comparing "reasonable" laws for society stability is not the same thing as this.
This IS Fascism, and if you can't recognize it, then you are the problem.
Further, I'm a conservative, not an anarchist. Governments ROLE is to be severely limited, but still vital. These kinds of things are well beyond it's role.

If they want to help eliminate people from being fat, then they should start at schools having not only P.E. but actual fitness classes every day, and health plans working with parents. High in whatever content foods ARE not and never have been the actual problem. Fitness levels have. But liberals, as usual they focus on fascist techniques in trying to get rid of "symptoms" rather than the actual CAUSES of a thing.

Take another example. Rather than simply implementing building laws that require solar and wind technology's to be used in every new home built, or business building, and them to be implemented when remodeling etc. is done, so people can remain independent and free as well as keep the environment cleaner, they implement huge wind and solar schemes that are far more costly, keeps people enslaved to utilities, etc. Las Vegas is a good example. They had a huge housing boom prior to the crash, the liberals that ran Las Vegas could have easily implemented those technology's in every new house, high sun and high wind area. Yet, they built primarily regular houses, worse even sardine houses, using more utilities and energy the city shouldn't have to spend.

I could go on and on how there is no "genius" in liberalism, and how it's nothing but fascism.
The Free Market with wise leaders who implement good policy's within the market create true quality of life and success.

[_krose]

Thank you for your continued instruction regarding the many facets of fascism, Sensei faqs. I am slow, but I am gradually coming to understand what is and what is not fascism.

Let's see if I have it right so far...

These things are NOT fascism:
- banning an adult from paying another adult for sex
- making women show ID to buy emergency birth control
- banning cancer-causing smoking in restaurants
- banning sales, use and possession of marijuana
- banning private sales of alcohol (state stores only)
- requiring food makers to list the nutritional contents of their packaged goods
- forcing parents to strap children into government-approved seats
- forcing auto makers to install government-approved seat belts and air bags

These things ARE fascism:
- asking manufacturers to lower the sodium content in their products
- banning artery-clogging trans-fats in restaurants
- requiring theater goers to get a refill when they want 32 ounces of Pepsi
- requiring restaurants to list the calorie content of their meals
- requiring gun sellers to check to see if a buyer is a convicted felon
- limiting the number of bullets in a magazine
- "almost" disallowing junk food purchases using food stamps (close is not just for horse shoes anymore)

[_just me]

Krose, thank you so much for pointing that out. My mind went to the same place.

One would think that all laws are fascist according to faqs.

I mean, hell, there is a limit to how much bug parts and mouse feces can be in our food!

There is a limit to how many contaminates can be present in our drinking water!!

There are laws preventing people from being naked in public!!!

I can't even buy spray paint without showing ID.

STOP THE FASCISM!!!!!!111!111!!!!!!1

[_Analytics]

Thank you for your continued instruction regarding the many facets of fascism, Sensei faqs. I am slow, but I am gradually coming to understand what is and what is not fascism.

Let's see if I have it right so far...

These things are NOT fascism:
- banning an adult from paying another adult for sex
- making women show ID to buy emergency birth control
- banning cancer-causing smoking in restaurants
- banning sales, use and possession of marijuana
- banning private sales of alcohol (state stores only)
- requiring food makers to list the nutritional contents of their packaged goods
- forcing parents to strap children into government-approved seats
- forcing auto makers to install government-approved seat belts and air bags

You forgot a couple of big ones. It is NOT fascism to simply implement building laws that require solar and wind technology's to be used in every new home built, or business building, and them to be implemented when remodeling etc.

It IS fascism to allow people in the free market to build regular houses or sardine houses if that is what they choose to do.

[_krose]

High in whatever content foods ARE not and never have been the actual problem. Fitness levels have. But liberals, as usual they focus on fascist techniques in trying to get rid of "symptoms" rather than the actual CAUSES of a thing.

OMG, you are SO right, as usual. Stupid liberals.

I mean, every health expert worth anything will tell you that you can eat anything you want, as long as you also exercise. Just lift some weights and ride your bike every day, and you can guzzle down as many liquid-sugar calories you want. Don't worry about developing diabetes. That's just a liberal media myth. There is no relationship between consumption of sugar and weight gain, and certainly none between salt consumption and blood pressure.

When all those fitness informercials put the fine print on the screen that says something like "when following our included diet plan," they're just forced to include that nonsense by fascist big-government regulations influenced by the powerful vegetable lobby. Same with that Biggest Loser show, when they put those fatties on a strict diet. They would get the same results if they just did the exercise, letting them eat ramen and mac-n-cheese every day, washed down by a 2-liter bottle of Dr. Pepper.

[_just me]

I didn't know "salt" and "sugar" were "symptoms" of obesity and other health problems.

Learn something new everyday!

[_ldsfaqs]

As usual Krose lies and misrepresents the point and facts and creates straw-men to make his case.

And yes, only allowing a 16 ounce drink in a theatre IS fascism.
A 32 ounce drink is JUST RIGHT when getting food with it, so please tell us oh great one why GOVERNMENT has ANY BUSINESS dictating the amount of drink I need while watching a movie and why I should be FORCED to miss part of a movie if I need more?

And let me clue people in.... I'm actually a fitness expert. So I know exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm not talking about DROWNING oneself in over-indulgent salt or sugar eating every day that can ultimately lead to problems. I'm talking about if people exercised for the "amount" most NORMAL people eat that CAN lead to these problems they would be solved by simple exercise.

You people clearly aren't aware of the Asian and other country's that eat as much or more meat than many american's for example, yet aren't fat. What makes people fat isn't meat, it's Carbohydrates, and American's eat a lot more complex carbs, and because they don't get the exercise they need, it turns to FAT. Yes, we do eat more simple carbs also, but again, exercise can resolve any potential issue, because it would be burned.

Anyone that has watched human behavior can easily see all of this. Old men who worked in small towns and farms their whole lives, thus are fit, live long healthy lives more often, even though they eat ALL THE BAD STUFF we are told not to eat. Whole milk, meat, lots of high calorie foods, etc. Yes, they don't generally do the sugar, but that's a separate issue.

Anyway, Krose having to use "extreme" examples of society behavior control to prove his point, rather than actual fascism we are talking about, proves he can't win the argument.

There is frankly no reasoning with people who have to create straw-men to win their argument.
We are not talking "regulating porn" here, we are talking about FOOD!!! We aren't talking about giving CRIMINALS GUNS.... We are talking about taking away law abiding good peoples rights to self defense in how THEY SEE FIT!!!

If a liberal doesn't think he needs an AR15 or a 25 Round clip when bad guys come in a particular situation, then LET HIM DIE.... Why should "I" die because YOU WANT TO DIE??? Scum!!! :( Further, you LIE, because you know very well the end result of all of this is TOTAL BAN or near total like has occurred almost every where else, and EVEN IN certain US cities already. So, get with reality instead of the liberal lies!!! You always say things don't happen because of your "feelings", your NEED to do something, but they always end up so.

The irony of you people is that you would CRY if people tried to ban "gay sex" (which we don't actually want to, we are reasonable these days to allow people to engage in THEIR OWN SINS), but you willingly think it's okay to take away other PERSONAL RIGHTS!!!!

Hypocrites.... It's okay to take away RIGHTS as long as they aren't YOUR RIGHTS!!!!
You ARE FACISTS...... Easy to see.