...But wait, this is all coincidence right? You see, many write off accusations of Obama being a Communist as "radical" or extreme. But in reality, calling Barack Obama a Communist really makes a lot of sense if you look at his history, his beliefs, and those he surrounds himself with.
Barack Obama: A History Of Communism
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I can tell that Droopy agrees with you with his new avatar here.

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Re: Barack Obama: A History Of Communism
bcspace wrote:...But wait, this is all coincidence right? You see, many write off accusations of Obama being a Communist as "radical" or extreme. But in reality, calling Barack Obama a Communist really makes a lot of sense if you look at his history, his beliefs, and those he surrounds himself with.
Barack Obama: A History Of Communism
Anyone who seriously educated him or herself regarding Obama's life, associations, and formative intellectual environment before his first election or since understands perfectly well that Obama is and has always been a radical leftist harboring a deep and abiding hostility to and alienation from America and its core founding principles, the classical liberal intellectual and political tradition, free market economic relations, private property rights, the primacy of the individual and his/her unalienable natural rights, religion, and local community.
To say that Obama is a "communist" (neo-communist would perhaps be the better term) is just to say that he is a revolutionary or transformational socialist who seeks, as he telegraphed time and again before his first election, the thorough restructuring and, using one of his favorite terms, transformation of America in political, economic, and social terms from its constitutional republican form toward a much more deeply regimented and controlled socialist welfare/caregiver state. "Socialism" is the theory and ideology Karl Marx and his disciples taught all their lives and which has been carried on in modified form since (most notably by the Frankfurt School and Obama's key intellectual mentor, beyond the Stalinist fellow-traveler Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky) by various theorists. The term "communism" was used in both the communist world and among its followers in the West throughout the Cold War era interchangeably with "socialism" to denote the various Marxist governments existing throughout the world and seeking to expand their influence and power. The term itself really has two meanings, one, as Marx and Engles used it in The Communist Manifesto, as a polemical term standing in for "socialism" but which Marx thought had more psychological and emotional appeal as political propaganda. The second is the theoretical future condition of a stateless utopia of universal brotherhood and limitless abundance that is the ultimate end of Marxist theory. This is pure utopian fantasy that need not actually concern any discussion of socialism as a serious theory of human economic and social organization and of socialism as actually practiced and manifest in actual history.
Obama is, without question, a radical leftist: socialist, collectivist, statist, and authoritarian in psychological and philosophical orientation. Everything he has done, and particularly in the economic realm, is clearly and unambiguously indicative of his ideological core and his disdain for the rule of law, hunger for ever more centralized, dictatorial powers, and utter disrespect for and of the "common man" the Left has so disingenuously laid claim to concern for over the course of the 20th century.
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Anyone who seriously educated him or herself
Well, that excludes all Democrats and other liberals. Come to think of it, I've never met an educated one of those. College degrees are worthless if such education doesn't result in being able to cope with and understand the real world.
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What is the definition of Communism?
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What is the definition of Communism?
The elimination of surplus value. An anti Christian notion (by definition anti Mormon also) as well as a destructive economic policy.
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You, Americans (read: US denizens...) don't know the meaning of a lot of words.
The word communism is one of the many.
The list is long. Horse, steel, telestial...
The word communism is one of the many.
The list is long. Horse, steel, telestial...
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Droopy wrote: The term "communism" was used in both the communist world and among its followers in the West throughout the Cold War era interchangeably with "socialism" to denote the various Marxist governments existing throughout the world and seeking to expand their influence and power.
So by definition Winston Churchill, who championed socialized medicine in Great Britain, was a Communist?
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bcspace wrote:What is the definition of Communism?
The elimination of surplus value. An anti Christian notion (by definition anti Mormon also) as well as a destructive economic policy.
Wrong!
Communism is, as the dictionary Quoted, a:
Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
Therefore Obama cannot be a Communist (at least not today); because he is for the private property and financial growth.
Nobody can say whether he was in the past once Communist or was influenced by communist ideals.
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Still some thoughts for the health care reform of Obama:
One goes bankrupt in the USA if one is seriously ill! The health insurance companies are commanded by businessmen and societies which are profit-oriented and therefore which do not pay necessary surgical interventions or expensive medicine. Whoever has seen the documentary movie "Sicko" of Michael Moore knows what I talk about.
Every man, also applicants for political asylum, receives a medical supply in Germany. An employee pays 2% of his gross salary for medical supply in the highest case. Furthermore all costs are free. And chronically ill persons pay only 1% of their gross wage.
Why is something like that not possible in the USA?
Because powerful pressure groups (LOBBYISTS) prevent this to the damage of the American population and the taxpayers.
Obama wanted only a compensation with his health program for all create those which work and nevertheless be able to not afford a health insurance.
If this is communism, I am glad to be a Communist!
One goes bankrupt in the USA if one is seriously ill! The health insurance companies are commanded by businessmen and societies which are profit-oriented and therefore which do not pay necessary surgical interventions or expensive medicine. Whoever has seen the documentary movie "Sicko" of Michael Moore knows what I talk about.
Every man, also applicants for political asylum, receives a medical supply in Germany. An employee pays 2% of his gross salary for medical supply in the highest case. Furthermore all costs are free. And chronically ill persons pay only 1% of their gross wage.
Why is something like that not possible in the USA?
Because powerful pressure groups (LOBBYISTS) prevent this to the damage of the American population and the taxpayers.
Obama wanted only a compensation with his health program for all create those which work and nevertheless be able to not afford a health insurance.
If this is communism, I am glad to be a Communist!
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