Proof of which side of Good and Evil liberals are on....

[_schreech]

1. The hanging of blacks was liberal of history (was this supposed to make sense?). The Democrats were the KKK, and most racism of history, not conservatives.

One for me.

"In 1874, organized white paramilitary groups were formed in the Deep South to replace the faltering Klan: the White League in Louisiana and the Red Shirts in Mississippi, North and South Carolina. They campaigned openly to turn Republicans out of office, intimidated and killed black voters, tried to disrupt organizing and suppressed black voting. They were out in force during the campaigns and elections of 1874 and 1876, contributing to the conservative Democrats regaining power in 1876, against a background of electoral violence." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

I know this is going to sound really deep to someone as shallow as you but, in the past, southern democrats were conservative. I am guessing you have been told that several times but since you are too dim to move beyond trivial labels its not surprising to me that you haven't been able to construct a well informed opinion on much of anything...you make me sadder with every barely coherent post you make.

2. Hate speech doesn't equate to violence, vandalism, etc. Further, these people aren't considered "conservative", thus you also state a straw-man.

Two for me.

1 - I am surprised that you are able to count to 2. Good on ya! Based on the idiocy of the OP and your inability to logically construct any kind of coherent argument on any subject, I wasn't sure...
2 - You really don't seem to have any clue what a straw-man is...its like you heard someone use it in an argument and decided that it made you sound smarter by saying it (repeatedly) but you have no idea how to use it in context.
3 - Do you, as a self described "conservative" (although this is another term you don't really seem to understand the meaning to which I find funny because you are so adamant about labeling yourself with it), disagree with the WBC's stance on gay marriage? All I need is a yes or no...

Oh, and just for fun:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34907.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/an-unbelievable-video-of-...political-madness/69530/

"The New America data supports the Department of Homeland Security's assessment of the growing threat of right-wing extremist groups. American politicians and the public should become more aware of the fact that while the threat from al Qaeda-inspired terrorists is much diminished at home, the threat from right-wing militants continues to rise." - http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/04/opinion/bergen-right-wing-violence

"In an indictment against the nine unsealed on Monday, the Justice Department said they were part of a group of apocalyptic Christian militants who were plotting to kill law enforcement officers in hopes of inciting an antigovernment uprising, the latest in a recent surge in right-wing militia activity. " - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/us/30militia.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

I am more worried about uneducated, "christian", knee-jerk bigots like yourself than I am of any muslim extremist....

[_Quasimodo]

It might be interesting, at this point, for ldsfaqs to give us his honest definition for both the terms conservative and liberal. Not a parrot of Rush or some other self enriching commentator, but a serious and non-insulting expination.

He might include how the terms "right" and "left" came about. We all can google it, but I thought it might be good for him to google that himself.

I would be particularly interested in hearing how how thinks Fascism is in any way related to liberalism. He throws that at us a lot, but I don't think he really understands what he is trying to say.

[Guest]

This is a pretty good summary of the difference between left and right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ3H04L3IJ0

As to Fascism and Liberals, I've given many examples many times on this forum of examples of it.
If you wish to understand it on a more scholarly level in a "serious" and non-insulting way, please read the book "Liberal Fascism" to start with.

Here's a video or two also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj7cyAHePII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oFLkIpF1uI

But a basic statement is that Conservative is for Freedom, which is contrary to Fascism, while liberalism is for Government control in all aspects of a persons life, the very definition of Fascism.

[_Quasimodo]

This is a pretty good summary of the difference between left and right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ3H04L3IJ0

As to Fascism and Liberals, I've given many examples many times on this forum of examples of it.
If you wish to understand it on a more scholarly level in a "serious" and non-insulting way, please read the book "Liberal Fascism" to start with.

But a basic statement is that Conservative is for Freedom, which is contrary to Fascism, while liberalism is for Government control in all aspects of a persons life, the very definition of Fascism.

Thanks for the link, ldsfaqs, but I'm hoping that you will put in your owns words (not those of others) what you think the two terms mean.

Your last statement would work for a good first paragraph, but it really doesn't explain why you think that.

I could give you good arguments against the idea that conservatism is always for freedom and liberalism is always for government control, but I would truly like to hear WHY you think this is true.

Your definition of the two terms is really important to a good conversation.

[_ldsfaqs]

I don't have the time or interest to write my own thesis paper on the subject, but I did add a couple of more links.

But, I do entirely agree with the things said.

Also, I would never say conservatives can't "ever" do anything that is or seems fascists.
Just like I would never say a conservative never commits a crime.
But, our ideology, our general behavior's and attitudes are for freedom.
Yes, as "conservatives" we do have some "standards", and sometimes those who are under that stripe want to go too far. As well, often times if not actually most we are called fascists, when we aren't. Ron Paul for example might say we are Fascist for our war's against Fanatical Islam, and that we have bases in various parts of the world in order to both monitor and be able to respond to world threats. But, he's simply wrong in that judgment.

Anyway, some thoughts.

[_MeDotOrg]

This reminds me of the old bromide that because Communists were for integration, therefore integration was a communist plot:

LOGAN, UTAH-
Former Agriculture Secretary Ezra Taft Benson charged Friday night that the civil-rights movement in the South had been ‘formatted almost entirely by the Communists.’ Elder Benson, a member of the Council of the Twelve of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in a public meeting here that the whole civil-rights movement was ‘phony.’”

Amazingly, Iran is not the only country where criticism has been heard of 'Stand Your Ground' and the Zimmerman verdict.

But I'm really curious as to how the rest of the group here sees the mullahs. Are they liberal or conservative?

As ldsfaqs has informed us, all things liberal are bad and all things conservative are good. Are the mullahs liberal?

[_ludwigm]

Thanks for the link, ldsfaqs, but I'm hoping that you will put in your owns words

He has no such things.

Your definition of the two terms is really important to a good conversation.

Please change the is to would be. (I don't want to edit Your sentence...)

[_moksha]

I don't have the time or interest to write my own thesis paper on the subject, but I did add a couple of more links.


Anyway, some thoughts.

Conservatives are the ones who club baby seals for sport and profit.

[_ludwigm]

I don't have the time or interest to write my own thesis paper on the subject, but I did add a couple of more links.


Anyway, some thoughts.

Conservatives are the ones who club baby seals for sport and profit.

Only the less cute ones:

[_ldsfaqs]

Conservatives are the ones who club baby seals for sport and profit.

Utter falsehood making you a liar.

1. The clubbing of seals is a old tradition that has nothing to do with "conservatives".

2. I don't know ANYONE who does this for "sport" let alone conservatives.

3. I personally don't agree with the practice, finding it barbaric and unnecessary, potentially immoral.

4. I am sure that most of the people who do it are likely good people in the normal moral sense.

5. Animals are for the use of man, thus while the particular practice is likely wrong, it's really not that much different than using animals traditionally in history. The clubbing of seals is clearly the most efficient method to engage in the practice.

6. I would agree that a more "humane" approach should be utilized.

7. The same people (liberals) who have a problem with the killing of an animal have ZERO problem with doing the same exact thing to a human life in the womb.

Are you not aware of the vile and in-humane methods used to abort a child?
How is it in the liberal mind does an "animal" have MORE WORTH than a human life?

I'm happy to be a conservative and not a liberal. I don't commit genocide.