Quasimodo wrote:Droopy wrote:The Nazis were not conservatives, but radicals and revolutionaries. They were totalitarian socialists. Glen Beck is a modern conservative (classical liberal), not a Nazi. Modern conservatism and National Socialism are diametrically opposed. The closest analog over 20th century history is Marxian utopian socialism and 20th century progressivism broadly speaking.
What horse crap! The Nazis underlying beliefs were a hatred of Jews (a conservative belief going back centuries in Germany) and a hatred of Communism.
1. Marx himself despised Jews, Judaism, and his own Jewishness to a degree not far at all from Hitler's, and we now know that Stalin had plans for a final solution for the Jews in Europe that, had it been carried out, would have rivaled and perhaps dwarfed Hitler's.
(a conservative belief going back centuries in Germany)
This is a meaningless statement. I have no idea what you mean by "conservatism" as it pertains to any body of ideas going back centuries in Germany, or how that body of ideas, whatever it was, relates to modern 20th century conservatism.
and a hatred of Communism
Hitler himself mentioned openly that Marxists/communists were among the best converts to National Socialism to be found, and encouraged evangelism among the revolutionary Marxist Left whenever possible. Hitler's "hatred" of communism was centered primarily in the observation that many of its main adherents were Jews. Hitler's hatred of free-market capitalism, shared by Marx and his 20th century disciples, was also related, as was Marx', to capitalism's alleged Jewishness.
Both systems were totalitarian. Both systems were socialist. Both systems were anti-capitalist and set severe limits on the use of private property. Both systems subsumed the individual wholly within the organic social mass and to the dominance of the state. Both systems used terror and paranoia as means of gaining and wielding power. Both systems were one party police state-oriented. Both systems were politically, economically, and psychologically collectivist, and both systems persecuted (and still do today, as in Cuba) racial/ethnic minorities.
The low-information citizen, dragging the entire culture down with him into drooling pop cultural oblivion.
Long live public ed and CNN.