NO Mormons are not Christian!

[_maklelan]

HUH!.....I don't have to prove anything. I am just declaring what Christians believe.....nothing more, nothing less.

No, you'r just declaring what you believe and are refusing to respond to challenges to your assertion that you speak on behalf of all Christians. You also refuse to respond to challenges to your assertion that your beliefs derive entirely and exclusively from the Bible.

You can choose to believe what you want...makes not a difference to me. Just don't call my dog a cat....

But you have to be allowed to call my dog a cat. There's that double standard again. You declare what Christians and Mormons believe. Mormons don't get to declare anything.

[_LittleNipper]

Mormons need only disagree with Christians and that is proof in and of itself.

[_maklelan]

The Holy Spirit reveals to God's chosen that He exists and the Bible is His Word.

So Christians know that God exists and the Bible is inerrant through . . . feelings? Didn't a bunch of people begin their time here proclaiming that Mormons are dumb for basing beliefs on feelings? How, precisely, does the Holy Spirit reveal to real Christians that the Bible is inerrant?

Mormons hang themselves by trying to discredit the facts of the Bible while promoting the truth of their prophet.

While Christians© are immune to the problems of self-contradiction and hypocrisy because they say so.

[_maklelan]

Mormons need only disagree with Christians and that is proof in and of itself.

Obviously. The foundation of bigotry is the belief that you are right and anyone who disagrees is wrong, and for no other reason than that you say so.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Here I am stating what the Christian community believes by choice about the Jesus they choose to believe in and you are asking ME to convince you there is a God. Why would I do that?

Well, if there's no god then there's no Jesus, right?


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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

[_jordon3]

Good point LittleNipper.....Christians and Mormons disagree on most everything doctrinally......how could they possibly BOTH be called Christians. What I declare is that Mormons and Christians believe entirely different doctrines. WOW at least the Muslims and other groups realize they have completely different doctrines and yet they have the smarts not to call themselves Christian. What's so hard to understand about this.

Oh man now that takes the cake. I guess I am a friggin Bigot because I say Pedopiles are disgusting pigs and evil. There are apparently tons of pedophiles out there that think it is just find. Oh bad me for saying I am right and pedophiles are wrong for no other reason that I say so. Wow now that is sound logic. I don't believe in the pedophile belief system so I am a bigot LOL Many examples can be given along this line. I realize this is a tad extreme but it certainly makes the point that pulling out the Bigot card is completely inappropriate with respect to this forum.

For love of God....

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Good point LittleNipper.....Christians and Mormons disagree on most everything doctrinally......how could they possibly BOTH be called Christians.

But if there's no god, it doesn't make any difference, right?



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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett

[_jordon3]

Yes Mr Erotic,,,that would be right...no god not Jesus....no point to arguing who is a Christian and who is not.....

[_maklelan]

Good point LittleNipper.....Christians and Mormons disagree on most everything doctrinally......how could they possibly BOTH be called Christians.

They agree that Jesus is the Son of God and the Savior of humanity. That was good enough for Jesus and the earliest Christians, but evidently there are more important doctrines these days that overrule that one.

What I declare is that Mormons and Christians believe entirely different doctrines. WOW at least the Muslims and other groups realize they have completely different doctrines and yet they have the smarts not to call themselves Christian. What's so hard to understand about this.

Nothing. I understand your position perfectly. I've done more research on the question than the two of you combined. My concern is that it's a fallacious position built on nothing more than sectarianism. The biblical aspect is just a secondary shellacking.

Oh man now that takes the cake. I guess I am a friggin Bigot because I say Pedopiles are disgusting pigs and evil. There are apparently tons of pedophiles out there that think it is just find. Oh bad me for saying I am right and pedophiles are wrong for no other reason that I say so. Wow now that is sound logic. I don't believe in the pedophile belief system so I am a bigot LOL Many examples can be given along this line. I realize this is a tad extreme

Yes, and specifically it's a fallacy called reductio ad absurdum, or appeal to extremes.

but it certainly makes the point that pulling out the Bigot card is completely inappropriate with respect to this forum.

It is also a logical fallacy.

For love of God....

Indeed.

[Guest]

Oh man now that takes the cake. I guess I am a friggin Bigot because I say Pedopiles are disgusting pigs and evil. There are apparently tons of pedophiles out there that think it is just find. Oh bad me for saying I am right and pedophiles are wrong for no other reason that I say so. Wow now that is sound logic. I don't believe in the pedophile belief system so I am a bigot LOL Many examples can be given along this line. I realize this is a tad extreme but it certainly makes the point that pulling out the Bigot card is completely inappropriate with respect to this forum.

I really hope you're not trying to equate Mormonism with pedophilia. Perhaps you should be a little more careful about throwing around words like "pedophilia" while discussing Mormonism.



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Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately. I've worked with the Historian's office. Their mandate is to preserve history and make it available to scholars and others, not to write about it. The clerks who work in the department are more clueless on some basic issues of history than I am, and that's not saying much.
--Robert D. Crockett