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LittleNipper wrote:Odin wouldn't but the only true God would.
No--not Odin; Thor. You know, the same Thor who saved you from an icy death by conquering the Frost Giants.

Nipper, have you thanked Thor for conquering the Frost Giants?
There are no frosty giants one needs to fear. It is the loss of one's soul and not one's life that one should fear.
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LittleNipper wrote:There are no frosty giants one needs to fear.
Right, because Thor conquered them. Are you suggesting he didn't? I don't see any Frost Giants anywhere...

LittleNipper wrote:It is the loss of one's soul and not one's life that one should fear.
That's right--if you're a valiant warrior, Thor's Valkyries will carry your soul to Valhalla. Don't you want your soul to go to Valhalla? I'm pretty sure you won't go to Valhalla if you don't thank Thor for destroying the Frost Giants.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Odin wouldn't but the only true God would.
No--not Odin; Thor. You know, the same Thor who saved you from an icy death by conquering the Frost Giants.

Nipper, have you thanked Thor for conquering the Frost Giants?

Have YOU?
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Deuteronomy 29:1-29 These are the terms of the covenant the Lord commanded Moses to make with the Israelites while they were in the land of Moab, in addition to the covenant he had made with them at Mount Sinai. Moses summons all the Israelites and reminded them, of all they witnessed: Everything the Lord did in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh and to all his servants and to his whole country— all the tests of strength, the signs, and wonders. But to this day the Lord has not provided minds that understand, eyes that see, nor ears that hear! For forty years Moses led Israel through the wilderness. Their clothes and sandals did not wear out. They ate no bread and drank no wine or other alcoholic drink, but God provided all nourishment.

King Sihon of Heshbon and King Og of Bashan came out to fight, but Israel defeated them, and took their land and gave it to the tribes of Reuben and Gad and to the half-tribe of Manasseh as their grant of land. Obey the terms of this covenant to continue to prosper. Everyone including foreigners, wives and children are standing to enter into the covenant of the Lord God. The Lord is making this covenant, including the curses. By entering into the covenant, he will establish his people and confirm that he is God, just as promised--- as he swore to the ancestors Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

They lived in the land of Egypt and traveled through the lands of enemy nations. They have seen their detestable practices and their idols made of wood, stone, silver, and gold. This covenant is so that no one —no man, woman, clan, or tribe—will turn away from the Lord God to worship these gods of other nations, and so that no root bears bitter and poisonous fruit. Those who hear the warnings of this curse should not congratulate themselves, thinking, ‘I am safe, even though I am following the desires of my own stubborn heart.’ This would lead to utter ruin! 20 The Lord will never pardon such people. Instead his anger and jealousy will burn against them. All the curses written in this book will come down on them, and the Lord will erase their names from under heaven. The Lord will separate them from all the tribes of Israel, to pour out on them all the curses of the covenant recorded in this Book of Instruction. Then the generations to come, both descendants and foreigners who come from distant lands, will see the devastation of the land and the diseases the Lord inflicts. They will exclaim, ‘The whole land is devastated by sulfur and salt. It is a wasteland with nothing planted and nothing growing. It is like the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, which the Lord destroyed in his intense anger. Surrounding nations will ask, ‘Why has the Lord done this to this land? Why was he so angry?’ The answer will be, because the people of the land abandoned the covenant that the Lord, the God of their ancestors. Instead, they turned away to serve and worship gods they had not known before, gods that were not from the Lord. That is why the Lord’s anger has burned against this land, bringing down on it every curse recorded in this book.

The Lord God has secrets known to no one. Israel is not accountable for them, but the people are accountable forever for all that he has revealed.
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1 These [are] the words of the covenant which Jehovah hath commanded Moses to make with the sons of Israel in the land of Moab, apart from the covenant which He made with them in Horeb.

2 And Moses calleth unto all Israel, and saith unto them, `Ye -- ye have seen all that which Jehovah hath done before your eyes in the land of Egypt, to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land;

3 the great trials which thine eyes have seen, the signs, and those great wonders;

4 and Jehovah hath not given to you a heart to know, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, till this day,

5 and I cause you to go forty years in a wilderness; your garments have not been consumed from off you, and thy shoe hath not worn away from off thy foot;

6 bread ye have not eaten, and wine and strong drink ye have not drunk, so that ye know that I [am] Jehovah your God.

7 `And ye come in unto this place, and Sihon king of Heshbon -- also Og king of Bashan -- doth come out to meet us, to battle, and we smite them,

8 and take their land, and give it for an inheritance to the Reubenite, and to the Gadite, and to the half of the tribe of Manasseh;

9 and ye have kept the words of this covenant, and done them, so that ye cause all that ye do to prosper.

10 `Ye are standing to-day, all of you, before Jehovah your God -- your heads, your tribes, your elders, and your authorities -- every man of Israel;

11 your infants, your wives, and thy sojourner who [is] in the midst of thy camps, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water --

12 for thy passing over into the covenant of Jehovah thy God, and into His oath which Jehovah thy God is making with thee to-day;

13 in order to establish thee to-day to Him for a people, and He Himself is thy God, as He hath spoken to thee, and as He hath sworn to thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

14 `And not with you alone am I making this covenant and this oath;

15 but with him who is here with us, standing to-day before Jehovah our God, and with him who is not here with us to-day,

16 for ye have known how ye dwelt in the land of Egypt, and how we passed by through the midst of the nations which ye have passed by;

17 and ye see their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which [are] with them,

18 lest there be among you a man or woman, or family or tribe, whose heart is turning to-day from Jehovah our God, to go to serve the gods of those nations, lest there be in you a root fruitful of gall and wormwood:

19 `And it hath been, in his hearing the words of this oath, and he hath blessed himself in his heart, saying, I have peace, though in the stubbornness of my heart I go on, in order to end the fulness with the thirst.

20 Jehovah is not willing to be propitious to him, for then doth the anger of Jehovah smoke, also His zeal, against that man, and lain down on him hath all the oath which is written in this book, and Jehovah hath blotted out his name from under the heavens,

21 and Jehovah hath separated him for evil, out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the oaths of the covenant which is written in this book of the law.

22 `And the latter generation of your sons who rise after you, and the stranger who cometh in from a land afar off, have said when they have seen the strokes of that land, and its sicknesses which Jehovah hath sent into it, --

23 ([with] brimstone and salt is the whole land burnt, it is not sown, nor doth it shoot up, nor doth there go up on it any herb, like the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboim, which Jehovah overturned in His anger, and in His fury,) --

24 yea, all the nations have said, Wherefore hath Jehovah done thus to this land? what the heat of this great anger?

25 `And they have said, Because that they have forsaken the covenant of Jehovah, God of their fathers, which He made with them in His bringing them out of the land of Egypt,

26 and they go and serve other gods, and bow themselves to them -- gods which they have not known, and which He hath not apportioned to them;

27 and the anger of Jehovah burneth against that land, to bring in on it all the reviling that is written in this book,

28 and Jehovah doth pluck them from off their ground in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath, and doth cast them unto another land, as [at] this day.

29 `The things hidden [are] to Jehovah our God, and the things revealed [are] to us and to our sons -- to the age, to do all the words of this law.
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LittleNipper wrote:
The Erotic Apologist wrote:
Nipper, have you thanked Thor for conquering the Frost Giants?

Have YOU?


Nipper, if you look closely at my avatar, you will see that I am Thor. You may now thank me for slaying the Frost Giants and saving you from an icy doom...unless you can prove that Thor doesn't exist. But I don't think that will be possible because I don't see any Frost Giants around. Do you?
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Nipper, have you thanked Thor for conquering the Frost Giants? --------------------------


Nipper, if you look closely at my avatar, you will see that I am Thor. You may now thank me for slaying the Frost Giants and saving you from an icy doom...unless you can prove that Thor doesn't exist. But I don't think that will be possible because I don't see any Frost Giants around. Do you?

If you are, then you should have already have known...
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LittleNipper wrote:If you are, then you should have already have known...

And now you know, too. So why waste time with this imaginary Yahweh character?
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LittleNipper wrote:If you are, then you should have already have known...

And now you know, too. So why waste time with this imaginary Yahweh character?

For being "imaginary," you certainly do waste a lot of time trying to convince everyone (including yourself) of that...
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LittleNipper wrote:For being "imaginary," you certainly do waste a lot of time trying to convince everyone (including yourself) of that...

What I'm asking for is clear, compelling proof that the supernatural context of the the Bible is real. Does a supernatural being named Yahweh exist? Do miracles happen? Do people come back from the dead? Do seas part? Does water turn into wine?

As of this moment I have found no reason to believe that any of these things actually happened, other than what is recorded in the Bible.

Do you believe it's possible to conclusively prove these things are real?

If yes, then how?
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:For being "imaginary," you certainly do waste a lot of time trying to convince everyone (including yourself) of that...

What I'm asking for is clear, compelling proof that the supernatural context of the the Bible is real. Does a supernatural being named Yahweh exist? Do miracles happen? Do people come back from the dead? Do seas part? Does water turn into wine?

As of this moment I have found no reason to believe that any of these things actually happened, other than what is recorded in the Bible.

Do you believe it's possible to conclusively prove these things are real?

If yes, then how?

There is real proof of the Flood. And yet those who will not accept it have all sorts of "scientific " rationalizations.
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