LittleNipper wrote:Does the Bible record that God was asked if these travesties should be accomplished?
Yes - see Noah.....
Who is Gabriel.....
Luke 1 19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. 26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
LeVay wrote:I have a question for you, LittleNipper. When Christians say their god is omnipresent, they mean he is everywhere, right? But Christians often describe Hell as the one place where their god isn't present. Isn't that a contradiction in terms? If your god is omnipresent, shouldn't he also be present in Hell? If your god isn't present in Hell, then how can he be omnipresent? If your god isn't omnipresent, then how can your god possibly be God?
God is everywhere; however, it is the God's love that is withheld from those in Hell. Its residence do not witness God's perfect love, but God's perfect judgment.
Luke 1 19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. 26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
The name Gabriel means “man of God” or “strength of God.” The second time Daniel encounters Gabriel (Daniel 9:21), he describes Gabriel as a “man [. . .] seen in the vision previously.” We don’t get any more details on Gabriel’s looks. Perhaps that’s because his messages are always so important. Gabriel scares people. When Daniel meets Gabriel, he is frightened and falls on his face. When Gabriel greets Zacharias, his first words are, “Do not be afraid.” Mary’s greeting is more celebratory, but Gabriel still follows up by telling her not to fear. Gabriel anticipates Jesus. Gabriel relays a prophecy concerning “Messiah the Prince” to Daniel. He tells Zacharias that John the Baptist will be a forerunner before the Lord. And most famously, he tells Mary that her son will be called “the Son of the Most High.”
LittleNipper wrote:Does the Bible record that God was asked if these travesties should be accomplished?
Yes - see Noah.....
I've told you before that the Flood was the result of man's constant sin. Even nature reacts to the sins of man ------- even ecologists seem to be aware of corruption, but imagine that man can make it better somehow, and work without prayer to correct things that concern them like global warming and over population. The Bible clearly demonstrates that after the rapture that man will attempt to maneuver things for 3 1/2 or 7 years (depending on one's consideration of Biblical Prophecy). Nature under man's manipulation will only get worse without God.
The simple fact is that EVERYONE might have been saved the very same way as Noah. THEY chose to do their own thing and ignore the warnings. They pointed at Noah's ark and mocked. So, don't play the moralist. It simply doesn't fit your view.
LittleNipper wrote:I've told you before that the Flood was the result of man's constant sin.
No, it was the result of God sending a deluge to drown humanity. God had a choice.
Even nature reacts to the sins of man ------- even ecologists seem to be aware of corruption, but imagine that man can make it better somehow, and work without prayer to correct things that concern them like global warming and over population. The Bible clearly demonstrates that after the rapture that man will attempt to maneuver things for 3 1/2 or 7 years (depending on one's consideration of Biblical Prophecy). Nature under man's manipulation will only get worse without God.
The simple fact is that EVERYONE might have been saved the very same way as Noah. THEY chose to do their own thing and ignore the warnings. They pointed at Noah's ark and mocked. So, don't play the moralist. It simply doesn't fit your view.
I repeat. God chose to drown humanity, nobody forced Him against His will.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
LaVey wrote:I have a question for you, LittleNipper. When Christians say their god is omnipresent, they mean he is everywhere, right? But Christians often describe Hell as the one place where their god isn't present. Isn't that a contradiction in terms? If your god is omnipresent, shouldn't he also be present in Hell? If your god isn't present in Hell, then how can he be omnipresent? If your god isn't omnipresent, then how can your god possibly be God?
God is everywhere; however, it is the God's love that is withheld from those in Hell. Its residence do not witness God's perfect love, but God's perfect judgment.
In other words, your god is only partially present in Hell.
But if your god is only partially present in Hell, then that would mean he's only partially omnipresent. But to say he's only partially omnipresent is like saying someone is only partially pregnant--it doesn't make any sense.
Can you support what you're saying with a specific passage from your Bible that directly addresses this topic and is not open to interpretation? I'd hate to think you're simply making this up. Do you remember what your Bible says will happen to people who add to or take away from your god's word?
P.S. Like I said earlier, I'm happy to read any link you care to cut and paste into this thread, but I expect you to read my links in return. Do we have a deal?
reciprocal altruism seems odd for a "satanist"...regardless, there would be no rational reason why a person would ever echo your behavior.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
LittleNipper wrote:I've told you before that the Flood was the result of man's constant sin.
No, it was the result of God sending a deluge to drown humanity. God had a choice.
Even nature reacts to the sins of man ------- even ecologists seem to be aware of corruption, but imagine that man can make it better somehow, and work without prayer to correct things that concern them like global warming and over population. The Bible clearly demonstrates that after the rapture that man will attempt to maneuver things for 3 1/2 or 7 years (depending on one's consideration of Biblical Prophecy). Nature under man's manipulation will only get worse without God.
The simple fact is that EVERYONE might have been saved the very same way as Noah. THEY chose to do their own thing and ignore the warnings. They pointed at Noah's ark and mocked. So, don't play the moralist. It simply doesn't fit your view.
I repeat. God chose to drown humanity, nobody forced Him against His will.
You do not understand God. God created nature. It would be like saying, that the sun doesn't need to shine so life can now exist on earth. God cannot change His nature. One plus One is Two. And the reality is that all those people were headed for eternal damnation. Perhaps because of the FLOOD some even called out to God for salvation and were saved to Paradise ---- we do not know. If there were innocent babies or children at the time of the Flood, they may have been saved to Paradise --- we simply do not know. However, the Bible indicates that if God did nothing, EVERYONE would have turned from God and have been eternally lost. So, I repeat that by nature God is what He is and does things because of His nature. Where God makes exceptions is where He ALREADY KNOWS that by doing such, things will be corrected and some men will learn.
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LittleNipper wrote:In other words, your god is only partially present in Hell.
But if your god is only partially present in Hell, then that would mean he's only partially omnipresent. But to say he's only partially omnipresent is like saying someone is only partially pregnant--it doesn't make any sense.
Can you support what you're saying with a specific passage from your Bible that directly addresses this topic and is not open to interpretation? I'd hate to think you're simply making this up. Do you remember what your Bible says will happen to people who add to or take away from your god's word?
P.S. Like I said earlier, I'm happy to read any link you care to cut and paste into this thread, but I expect you to read my links in return. Do we have a deal?
God is present; however, those in Hell are not aware of His presence. And they would know God exists and would have seem Him in all His glory on Judgment Day. Then they are cast into the Lake of Fire. I do not wish to give satan the time of day. I will talk to you; however, satan offers no salvation. He offers nothing I would be interested in.
LittleNipper wrote:God is present; however, those in Hell are not aware of His presence.
That's a very interesting opinion, but I was hoping you'd show me a passage from your Bible that directly addresses this topic and is not open to interpretation.
Do you have anything to back this up? Or is this a new and innovative doctrine you've invented?
LittleNipper wrote:I will talk to you; however, satan offers no salvation. He offers nothing I would be interested in.
What are you trying to say here? Are you saying you'll read my links if I read yours? Or are you one of those entertaining people who wants to do all the talking but never wants to listen?