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LeVay wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:


Just because those in hell are separated from God doesn't mean that He is unaware of them or is not there.

How is it possible to be "forever separated" from your god and yet still be in his presence?

I'm still waiting for a specific passage from your Bible that directly addresses this topic and is not open to interpretation. Or should I interpret your unwillingness to engage this topic as a tacit admission that you've made it all up? Isn't that supposed to be a pretty serious sin?


Well, I have the Lord and you don't seem to, and yet He is all around. You don't see him. Why cannot hell be more of the same for those who rejected God in this life.
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LittleNipper wrote:Well, I have the Lord and you don't seem to, and yet He is all around. You don't see him. Why cannot hell be more of the same for those who rejected God in this life.
Sorry, you're the who's trying to add new doctrine, not me.

Doesn't your god frown on that?
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LeVay wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Well, I have the Lord and you don't seem to, and yet He is all around. You don't see him. Why cannot hell be more of the same for those who rejected God in this life.
Sorry, you're the who's trying to add new doctrine, not me.

Doesn't your god frown on that?

Psalm 139: 7 – 8
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?
If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.
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LittleNipper wrote:Psalm 139: 7 – 8
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?
If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.

Yes, I'm well aware of that verse, but this isn't a scripture chase. When are you going to answer my question?

And while you're at it, here's another. Your god is often described as being simultaneously omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. Unfortunately, the qualities of omniscience and omnipotence are mutually exclusive. In other words, if one is omnipotent, one cannot also be omniscient. Conversely, if one is omniscient, one cannot also be omnipotent. Can you please provide me with a passage of scripture that directly addresses this glaring contradiction and is not open to interpretation? Thank you.
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LittleNipper wrote:And you seem to be choosing to go to hell. God is not sending you there. :eek:


How am I choosing hell?
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by the way there are ones to whom I don't answer --- in general.
This time I raped myself.

subgenius wrote:ironically "math" does not occur in nature....it is entirely man made...in other words, 1+1=2 does not exist in nature, completely man-made....equals 2 because we said so....we can actually change the rules so that 1+1=3.275
jus sayin

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Ironically (uppercase letter at the beginning of a sentence...), you don't know nature and/or math (math without quotation marks)

- Exponential function (The exponential function is widely used in physics, chemistry, engineering, mathematical biology, economics and mathematics. --- all are descriptions of nature)

- Golden ratio (The golden ratio is also called the golden section - Latin: sectio aurea - or golden mean. Other names include extreme and mean ratio, medial section, divine proportion, divine section - Latin: sectio divina ; The golden ratio has also been used to analyze the proportions of natural objects as well as man-made systems such as financial markets)

- Fibonacci number (Applications include computer algorithms such as the Fibonacci search technique and the Fibonacci heap data structure, and graphs called Fibonacci cubes used for interconnecting parallel and distributed systems. They also appear in biological settings, such as branching in trees, phyllotaxis (the arrangement of leaves on a stem), the fruit sprouts of a pineapple, the flowering of artichoke, an uncurling fern and the arrangement of a pine cone.)
My pet example:
Fibonacci considers the growth of an idealized (biologically unrealistic) rabbit population, assuming that: a newly born pair of rabbits, one male, one female, are put in a field; rabbits are able to mate at the age of one month so that at the end of its second month a female can produce another pair of rabbits; rabbits never die and a mating pair always produces one new pair (one male, one female) every month from the second month on. The puzzle that Fibonacci posed was: how many pairs will there be in one year?
At the end of the first month, they mate, but there is still only 1 pair.
At the end of the second month the female produces a new pair, so now there are 2 pairs of rabbits in the field.
At the end of the third month, the original female produces a second pair, making 3 pairs in all in the field.
At the end of the fourth month, the original female has produced yet another new pair, the female born two months ago produces her first pair also, making 5 pairs.
At the end of the nth month, the number of pairs of rabbits is equal to the number of new pairs (which is the number of pairs in month n − 2) plus the number of pairs alive last month (n − 1). This is the nth Fibonacci number.


The other math examples on that site are apparently chinese for you...

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Yellow Chamomile head showing the arrangement in 21 (blue) and 13 (aqua) spirals. Such arrangements involving consecutive Fibonacci numbers appear in a wide variety of plants.

And --- last but not least --- something Hungarian...
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Fibonacci intervals (counting in semitones) in Bartók's Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion, 3rd mov. (1937)
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- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Thanks to Ludwig for livening up an otherwise uninteresting thread.

The Golden Ratio, or the Rule of Thirds, is also an important consideration in photographic composition...

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subgenius wrote:ironically "math" does not occur in nature....it is entirely man made...in other words, 1+1=2 does not exist in nature, completely man-made....equals 2 because we said so....we can actually change the rules so that 1+1=3.275
jus sayin


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Hey Subby, you're an architect, right? Why not share some examples of your work with us? I'm sure we'd all love to see them.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
subgenius wrote:ironically "math" does not occur in nature....it is entirely man made...in other words, 1+1=2 does not exist in nature, completely man-made....equals 2 because we said so....we can actually change the rules so that 1+1=3.275
jus sayin


awkward

Hey Subby, you're an architect, right? Why not share some examples of your work with us? I'm sure we'd all love to see them.


At 2013.06.09 06:38:54 UTC+1
I wrote:
... what cement really is ...

FYI
Aeons ago - 1963-67 - my alma mater was the "Ybl Miklós Technical Institute of Architecture".
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(Miklós Ybl - Hungarian: Ybl Miklós - was one of Europe's leading architects in the mid to late nineteenth century)

See the do as the Romans did thread...
by the way my comment repeated above was moved to offtopic forum - from my own thread...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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