ME: "If God were to create a rock that was so heavy that not even God could pick it up, would God still be able to pick it up?"
LITTLENIPPER:"Yes!"
[/quote] Don't be ridiculous. God can not lie, cheat or steal! God WILL do nothing that goes against His nature. God can not sin. Matthew 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Making rocks too big has nothing to do with God being able to see everything that goes on in hell, and yet those in hell having no perception of God being there. I think you have read too many Satanic books.
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How am I being ridiculous? You're the one who claims your god is simultaneously there and not there in hell...which sounds pretty ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?
LittleNipper wrote:God can not lie, cheat or steal!
Then it sounds like we're in agreement that your god is not omnipotent.
LittleNipper wrote:God can not sin.
Ergo, your god is not omnipotent. Very good, LittleNipper!
LittleNipper wrote:Matthew 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Nope, you're going off on an unrelated tangent--this has nothing to do with your claim that god is simultaneously there and not there in hell.
LittleNipper wrote:Making rocks too big has noting to do with God being able to see everything that goes on in hell...
Whether or not god can see what's in hell is not what this discussion is about--god doesn't like it when you lie, LittleNipper.
LittleNipper wrote:...and yet those in hell having no perception of God being there.
Nope, you're heading off on another unrelated tangent--this is about your absurd claim that god is simultaneously there and not therein hell.
LittleNipper wrote:I think you have read too many Satanic books.
How am I being ridiculous? You're the one who claims your god is simultaneously there and not there in hell...which sounds pretty ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?
LittleNipper wrote:God can not lie, cheat or steal!
Then it sounds like we're in agreement that your god is not omnipotent.
LittleNipper wrote:God can not sin.
Ergo, your god is not omnipotent. Very good, LittleNipper!
LittleNipper wrote:Matthew 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Nope, you're going off on an unrelated tangent--this has nothing to do with your claim that god is simultaneously there and not there in hell.
LittleNipper wrote:Making rocks too big has noting to do with God being able to see everything that goes on in hell...
Whether or not god can see what's in hell is not what this discussion is about--god doesn't like it when you lie, LittleNipper.
LittleNipper wrote:...and yet those in hell having no perception of God being there.
Nope, you're heading off on another unrelated tangent--this is about your absurd claim that god is simultaneously there and not therein hell.
LittleNipper wrote:I think you have read too many Satanic books.
It's impossible to read too many Satanic books.
I claim God is Here NOW. Do you see Him? So, why cannot God see what is going on in hell and those there be oblivious to that fact and unaffected by that fact? Actually, this thread has nothing to do with your posts. If you wish to ask questions about the Bible, I will do my best to find the answers you seek.
1 Samuel 6:1-21 The Ark remained in the Philistine country for seven months. The Philistines called for their priests and diviners and asked them, “What shall we do about the Ark of God? What sort of gift shall we send with it when we return it to its own land?” They were told to send a guilt offering so that the plague will stop. Then, if it doesn’t, you will know God didn’t send the plague upon you after all. And they were told, to send five gold models of the tumor caused by the plague, and five gold models of the rats that have ravaged the whole land—cities and villages alike. If they send these gifts and then praise the God of Israel, perhaps he will stop persecuting them and their idol.
They are warned not to be stubborn and rebellious as Pharaoh and the Egyptians were. They wouldn’t let Israel go until God had destroyed them with dreadful plagues. They are to build a new cart and hitch to it two cows that have just had calves—cows that never before have been yoked—and shut their calves away from them in the barn. Place the Ark of God on the cart beside a chest containing the gold models of the rats and tumors, and let the cows go wherever they want to.
If they cross the border of our land and go into Beth-shemesh, then they will know that it was God who brought this great evil; if they don’t but return to their calves, then they will know that the plague was simply a coincidence and was not sent by God at all.
These instructions were carried out and sure enough, the cows went straight along the road toward Beth-shemesh, lowing as they went; and the Philistine leaders followed them as far as the border of Beth-shemesh. The people of Beth-shemesh were reaping wheat in the valley, and when they saw the Ark, they went wild with joy!
The cart came into the field of a man named Joshua and stopped beside a large rock. So the people broke up the wood of the cart for a fire and killed the cows and sacrificed them to the Lord as a burnt offering. Several men of the tribe of Levi lifted the Ark and the chest containing the gold rats and tumors from the cart and laid them on the rock. And many burnt offerings and sacrifices were offered to the Lord that day by the men of Beth-shemesh.
After the five Philistine leaders had watched for a while, they returned to Ekron that same day. The five gold models of tumors which had been sent by the Philistines as a guilt offering to the Lord were gifts from the mayors of the capital cities, Ashdod, Gaza, Ashkelon, Gath, and Ekron. The gold rats were to placate God for the other Philistine cities, both the fortified cities and the country villages controlled by the five capitals. (By the way, that large rock at Beth-shemesh can still be seen in the field of Joshua.) But the Lord killed seventy of the men of Beth-shemesh because they looked into the Ark. And the people mourned because of the many people whom the Lord had killed.
“Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God?” they cried out. “Where can we send the Ark from here?” So they sent messengers to the people at Kiriath-jearim and told them that the Philistines had brought back the Ark of the Lord.
“Come and get it!” they begged.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 And the ark of Jehovah is in the field of the Philistines seven months,
2 and the Philistines call for priests and for diviners, saying, `What do we do to the ark of Jehovah? let us know wherewith we send it to its place?'
3 And they say, `If ye are sending away the ark of the God of Israel, ye do not send it away empty; for ye do certainly send back to Him a guilt-offering; then ye are healed, and it hath been known to you why His hand doth not turn aside from you.'
4 And they say, `What [is] the guilt-offering which we send back to Him?' and they say, `The number of the princes of the Philistines -- five golden emerods, and five golden mice -- for one plague [is] to you all, and to your princes,
5 and ye have made images of your emerods, and images of your mice that are corrupting the land, and have given honour to the God of Israel; it may be He doth lighten His hand from off you, and from off your gods, and from off your land;
6 and why do ye harden your heart as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their heart? do they not -- when He hath rolled Himself upon them -- send them away, and they go?
7 `And now, take and make one new cart, and two suckling kine, on which a yoke hath not gone up, and ye have bound the kine in the cart, and caused their young ones to turn back from after them to the house,
8 and ye have taken the ark of Jehovah, and put it on the cart, and the vessels of gold which ye have returned to Him -- a guilt-offering -- ye put in a coffer on its side, and have sent it away, and it hath gone;
9 and ye have seen, if the way of its own border it goeth up to Beth-Shemesh -- He hath done to us this great evil; and if not, then we have known that His hand hath not come against us; an accident it hath been to us.'
10 And the men do so, and take two suckling kine, and bind them in the cart, and their young ones they have shut up in the house;
11 and they place the ark of Jehovah upon the cart, and the coffer, and the golden mice, and the images of their emerods.
12 And the kine go straight in the way, on the way to Beth-Shemesh, in one highway they have gone, going and lowing, and have not turned aside right or left; and the princes of the Philistines are going after them unto the border of Beth-Shemesh.
13 And the Beth-Shemeshites are reaping their wheat-harvest in the valley, and they lift up their eyes, and see the ark, and rejoice to see [it].
14 And the cart hath come in unto the field of Joshua the Beth-Shemeshite, and standeth there, and there [is] a great stone, and they cleave the wood of the cart, and the kine they have caused to ascend -- a burnt-offering to Jehovah.
15 And the Levites have taken down the ark of Jehovah, and the coffer which [is] with it, in which [are] the vessels of gold, and place [them] on the great stone; and the men of Beth-Shemesh have caused to ascend burnt-offerings and sacrifice sacrifices in that day to Jehovah;
16 and the five princes of the Philistines have seen [it], and turn back [to] Ekron, on that day.
17 And these [are] the golden emerods which the Philistines have sent back -- a guilt-offering to Jehovah: for Ashdod one, for Gaza one, for Ashkelon one, for Gath one, for Ekron one;
18 and the golden mice -- the number of all the cities of the Philistines -- for the five princes, from the fenced city even unto the hamlet of the villages, even unto the great meadow on which they placed the ark of Jehovah -- [are] unto this day in the field of Joshua the Beth-Shemeshite.
19 And He smiteth among the men of Beth-Shemesh, for they looked into the ark of Jehovah, yea, He smiteth among the people seventy men -- fifty chief men; and the people mourn, because Jehovah smote among the people -- a great smiting.
20 And the men of Beth-Shemesh say, `Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and unto whom doth He go up from us?'
21 And they send messengers unto the inhabitants of Kirjath-Jearim, saying, `The Philistines have sent back the ark of Jehovah; come down, take it up unto you.'
LittleNipper wrote:God is present; however, those in Hell are not aware of His presence.
LittleNipper wrote:God is everywhere; however, it is the God's love that is withheld from those in Hell. Its residence do not witness God's perfect love, but God's perfect judgment.
LittleNipper wrote:Well, I have the Lord and you don't seem to, and yet He is all around. You don't see him. Why cannot hell be more of the same for those who rejected God in this life.
LittleNipper wrote:2 Thessalonians 1:9"They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power."
Littlenipper, which of these contradictory statements is/are true?
All of them?
None of them?
I'm glad it's not just Mormons that have to make crap up out of whole cloth.
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
LittleNipper wrote:Actually, this thread has nothing to do with your posts.
Actually, it does. Because if you believe your god is truly omnipotent (evidence to the contrary notwithstanding) you must therefore also believe it's your god's will that I post the things I post. If your god saw fit to make me a Satanist, then who are you to question his wisdom?
LittleNipper wrote:If you wish to ask questions about the Bible, I will do my best to find the answers you seek.
No, you won't, not if your past track record is any guide. You will continue to do what Mormon Apostle Robert Millet does in this now infamous YouTube video...
LittleNipper wrote:Actually, this thread has nothing to do with your posts.
Actually, it does. Because if you believe your god is truly omnipotent (evidence to the contrary notwithstanding) you must therefore also believe it's your god's will that I post the things I post. If your god saw fit to make me a Satanist, then who are you to question his wisdom?
LittleNipper wrote:If you wish to ask questions about the Bible, I will do my best to find the answers you seek.
No, you won't, not if your past track record is any guide. You will continue to do what Mormon Apostle Robert Millet does in this now infamous YouTube video...
Mormons have a name for this kind of behavior: Lying for the Lord.
Why should I trust you if you insist on Lying for the Lord?
God foreknows and foresees your choices. God may even choose to enhance your choices to His own Glory and the further training of His chosen; however, God did not did not make you a "Satanist." You made that decision for yourself through your own life choices. Let's face it, one cannot blame God because one gets a tattoo. One is not born with a tattoo. One acquires it.
LittleNipper wrote:I claim God is Here NOW. Do you see Him? So, why cannot God see what is going on in hell and those there be oblivious to that fact and unaffected by that fact? Actually, this thread has nothing to do with your posts. If you wish to ask questions about the Bible, I will do my best to find the answers you seek.
This is a good example of what Mormons call "Lying for the Lord". As Mormon Apostle Robert Millet would explain it, LittleNipper is ignoring the question he was asked and instead is answering the question he thinks should have been asked.
LittleNipper, why should anybody trust you if you insist on continually Lying for the Lord?
And while you're at it, would you please answer this question as well...
consiglieri wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:I claim God is Here NOW. Do you see Him?
The better question is whether you can see him.
If so, please tell us about it.
If not, on what do you base your claim that God is here now?
If it is on the Bible alone, what do you do with a book that contradicts your personal experience?
